Complete offer from the architect? Is the price reasonable?

Hello Matthew, I had already posted that, ...

After the architect's offer, we contacted 2 different GCs again, but both immediately asked if we had a submission plan. Without a submission plan, they won’t do anything, but I can only get the submission plan from the architect / planning office. If we have a submission plan, they are always willing to enter into further discussions, but without it, the talks always ended very quickly.
As I said, we have no problem running everything through a GC, only that seems to be rare. Maybe it’s due to the region or other circumstances

Then you were one of the exceptions. Keep looking. It is not the rule that a GC won’t draw up a plan for you.

According to some definitions, that is exactly the definition of a general contractor (GU). Otherwise, it would (according to this definition) be a general subcontractor (GÜ). But yes, I also know it as GUs usually have their own planners on hand, whether employed or freelance. The difference to a GÜ is whether a trade is also carried out itself or not. My contractor (AN) is a GÜ with an appointed architect who designed quite freely according to our wishes and not only worked through things, but also contributed own ideas and kept us from making mistakes. Unfortunately, he was one of the "symmetry above all" faction and thus found an open ear with my wife, so I couldn't always assert my "but it has to work on the inside, too" approach.

and mixed up the LPs again. This runs like a red thread through the thread. The offer is 3k for performance phase 4. Although you can’t do that without the previous phases, so a minimum of effort is invested here. But it is not comparable.

I can’t shake the feeling that some either don’t want to read properly or can’t!!. Nothing is mixed up at all, just look at the offer properly, it explicitly states performance phases 1-4. I have even marked it again for you and also your statement that I should answer something I have already written at least twice before, well... I’ll keep my thoughts to myself.

Since this is now drifting very much, I’ll let the topic be closed

@Matthew03[/USER] and also your statement that I should answer something I have already written at least twice before, well... I just keep my thoughts to myself. Since this is now drifting too much, I’ll close the topic

Otherwise, are you doing well? It’s quite exhausting when well-meaning advice isn’t recognized as such, but then to show arrogance on top of that annoys me so much. Let me repeat for you: The vast majority of general contractors, including regional ones, either draft a floor plan and plan themselves or through cooperations. Apparently, you got two exceptions, too bad. For your repeatedly mentioned problem, a general contractor would probably be exactly right for you. You should probably invest a bit more energy than just saying “I went to two who didn’t want to.” But hey, it’s your construction project.

Right, I overlooked that. My mistake.

It's just way too little - a week's work, if you then insist on the services of the HOAI the architect will quickly stop responding. There are plenty of such threads here.

Unfortunately, he was one of the "symmetry above all" faction and thus found open doors with my wife, so that I could not enforce my "but it has to work on the inside too" approach in all matters.

This is not meant to insult your wife, but rather the expert who in my opinion ought to have learned this: symmetry can certainly be appreciated as a plus for beauty, but symmetry "rulez" is pseudo-aesthetics for those with a dyslexia of proportions, i.e. unsuitable to "replace" design. Without the different railing height in the middle children's room, your garden facade would, in my opinion, have exceeded the limits of tolerability in its simplicity. And with the "Villa " we have here in the forum a prime example of how any germ of design can be almost pasteurized by the fear of too little symmetry ;-(

Again, for the record: the absolute majority of general contractors, even regional ones, either draw a floor plan and plan for you themselves or through cooperations. You probably hit two exceptions, a pity. For your repeatedly mentioned problem, a general contractor would probably be exactly right for you.

I understood it so that the two general contractors asked probably have cooperation partners, but these are not available in the foreseeable future (simply because there is currently little downtime even for architects of below-average creativity, and their own clients will of course prefer the builders who rather pay at the MyHammer level). But I did not mean contract signatories for "free planning," rather (because the wishes of the original poster show no necessity for such) absolutely sufficient alternatively simply stock models – precisely the Franziska 135, which can be quickly replanned half a meter wider to a 142 and covered with a gable roof instead of a hip roof; including drainage, that can be redrawn in two days.