Complete offer from the architect? Is the price reasonable?

1-4 would thus be about €20,000!

And unfortunately, then it’s not a star architect.
Because either they calculate the maximum rate or push you into another zone...

In my opinion, €11k is good for an acceptable result. Provided the permit would be granted.

One should also read what the OP wrote. Here, not service phases 1-4 but only 2 and 4 are offered.

Understandably difficult for you to know whom or what to believe here, so here's a brief explanation:
You can google HOAI calculators and read up on them briefly; they also explain the content of the service phases there.
You will find that your offer roughly contains service phase 2 and service phase 4.
You can enter that into the calculator and you will get about €4,300 net fee. A star architect wouldn't so much as lift a finger for that; a run-of-the-mill signature-filer would also do it for €2,000. That’s where it stands. At that price, you can assume it’s a reputable architect creating something special for you—but not a superstar.

Regarding your house costs: 360 BGF is about 280 sqm of living space—that costs at least €600k for a standard house in southern Bavaria. A house for which service phase 2 costs €10,000 will rather cost seven figures.

Yes, the more posts, the more opinions, the more confusing the jungle becomes for us… Regarding the HOAI calculator, I had already run through various prices, but the question is always how high the eligible costs really are, because that is what it ultimately depends on.

It definitely is not a star architect or well-known architect (at least not to me), and we also do not want anything extravagant, just a simple single-family house, without much frills.

Regarding the living area and BGF… well, that’s a bit nebulous. We had estimated about 140 sqm on the ground floor and about 125 sqm on the first floor. No basement will be built because it would exceed the budget.
We will have to do quite a bit of work ourselves to keep it financially feasible, so at the current stage, we hope not to exceed €600k, especially as some parts (e.g., the upper floor) will be done step-by-step…

Conclusion… We will try again to find 1-2 general contractors who will give us their price expectations, then the architect’s offer might be better assessed (by the way, a prefab house provider quoted €8.7k net for architect services… we just don’t want a prefab house provider…).

We will keep you updated!

I am curious myself, as I have three meetings with construction contractors this week (2x regional construction contractors and 1x construction contractor from Poland). I am curious how it will be with the architectural services.

For what reason are service phases 1+3 omitted and the risk fully transferred to the client, so that for service phase 4 there does not even have to be building permit eligibility?

And on what basis should a contractor make an offer; an execution is not part of service phases 1-4. Nor is a structural calculation or thermal protection certificate,...

An architect needs even more rather than less creativity when asked to rework a layman's plan instead of doing original concept work. You need an architect "instead of a rubber-stamp official" when the residents and/or the property and/or the development plan have special requests that cannot be handled with the cookie-cutter design "Vanessa 135" from the general contractor. The best way to throw the architect's fee out the window is to downgrade him to just a draftsman and not have him plan and supervise the construction as well. The general contractor’s "site manager" is only called that but has a largely different role. And a tender only makes sense insofar as it prescribes a binding uniform response format, otherwise inevitably apples and oranges will be put side by side. Architect or general contractor is fundamentally the wrong approach; a reasonable architect includes the general contractor in the tendering process, unless the client prevents him from doing so.

An architect actually needs more rather than less creativity when asked to tinker with an amateur's plan instead of doing their own conceptual work. You need an architect “instead of a stamp mill” when the residents and/or the property and/or the development plan have special requirements that cannot be met with the standard design "Vanessa 135" from the general contractor. The best way to throw the architect's fee out the window is to degrade them to a mere draftsman and not have them plan and supervise the execution as well. The "site manager" of the general contractor only has the same name but a largely different role. And a tender only makes sense if it strictly specifies a uniform response format, otherwise apples will inevitably be compared to oranges afterward. Architect or general contractor is fundamentally the wrong approach; a sensible architect includes the general contractor in the tender unless the client prevents them from doing so.

Take another look at the posts... The architect does not want to go beyond LP-4 !!, so it’s not our fault, rather the opposite.
As I said, we will now select 2 more general contractors and see what they say... After that we will see how to proceed.

Please no further posts that are not related to the questions; otherwise, I feel this drifts far from the original topic.

Thank you & regards