Best retrofit smart home new build

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Mycraft

2021-08-09 09:52:20
  • #1

Depending on the system you choose, everything ranges from fully manual to fully automatic.


The one who pays... also decides on the type of control. Most builders don't want to deal with it or pay more for more options and just end up getting the step selector switch.


There is no patent recipe. You can measure one or several parameters per room, or per floor, or even only within the system. How the control algorithms look then is up to you with the appropriate equipment.
 

Pacc666

2021-08-12 11:22:23
  • #2
Have you made the front door smart with your KNX system?

Have you installed a video intercom system on your KNX system?
Have you also connected the door lock to the KNX?

What are the advantages and disadvantages of the smart door lock?

How would you set up the smart door lock, does it run on batteries?
How secure is it? How secure would a fingerprint scanner be? (actually very insecure on the phone)
 

AllThumbs

2021-08-12 11:43:46
  • #3

KNX and door lock initially have nothing to do with each other. You can connect the two, but some do not want to for security reasons. Although I do not see how that should be a disadvantage if there is a separate outside line.

At least I have implemented the following with us:

    [*]I have additionally connected the two relays of the fingerprint reader controller to KNX binary inputs. This way, the KNX system already knows that someone is entering the house and you can, for example, disarm the alarm system (certainly not VDE compliant). After moving in, you will probably think of even more evaluation options.
    [*]I initially let the controller’s push-button inputs switch actuators. Whether I will actually use this, I do not yet know. The security aspect mentioned above also comes into play here.

In new buildings, you solve that with a motor lock and fingerprint/RFID reader. Nothing runs on battery and you don't have an ugly box on the lock like with retrofit solutions.

The fingerprint scanner from Ekey at least has live detection. Even if other solutions don’t have that... who copies your fingerprint James Bond style instead of just throwing a stone through the window? (Warning, may contain traces of exaggeration)
 

untergasse43

2021-08-12 11:44:02
  • #4
The video intercom has nothing to do with KNX, at most the button that opens the door via the switching actuator. Advantage: You don’t need a key and don’t have to go to the door to open it. What else should the advantage be?

A door lock is not smart either, it’s just connected to a switching actuator! I have an ekey fingerprint scanner connected to the intercom, which opens the door lock via KNX. Additionally, there are contacts for lock monitoring. The building control runs on my UPS in the rack, so it should survive at least an hour of outage. Otherwise, the door still has a completely normal lock and the key is with my parents-in-law :)
 

Tarnari

2021-08-12 11:44:41
  • #5


What is a smart entrance door?
No
No
What is a smart door lock?
Our motor lock is powered by the house electricity. Why would it need a battery?
I find fingerprint scanners impractical and seemingly insecure.
 

Mycraft

2021-08-12 11:44:45
  • #6

Yes, the door should report whether it is open/closed/locked.


If you need it, it’s not a problem. However, it is often a costly factor regardless of whether you connect it to KNX or not. This is because mostly proprietary systems and buses from manufacturers are used here. With pharmacist prices. Which are then sometimes connected to KNX via SIP.


What does smart mean to you regarding a door lock? There are quite many variations and interpretations of this term. Generally speaking, the advantages are also the disadvantages. For example, if you can open it remotely, then you have to make sure that no one else can do so, and that is sometimes a very difficult task.


You have to ask the manufacturer of the preferred lock how they have solved this.


It is as secure as you feel it is. To put it simply, it is not more secure than a key. Exactly where the strengths and weaknesses lie is always shown by tests. Results can often be found relatively easily on the internet.
 

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