Presentation of the floor plan

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kbt09

2015-08-12 19:10:03
  • #1
According to the plan, however, it is 208 cm. And, drywall walls, then tiles will be added on both sides, also plaster and in the shower tiles again.

Cabinet depth without doors... already the Ikea-Pax carcasses are 58 cm deep. Without doors. And, as I said, just imagine the attic ladder is lowered, then you can't even reach the attic ladder opening or stand there, but you can't get the things you want to place on the floor past the ladder and the cabinets.
 

ypg

2015-08-12 19:31:42
  • #2
So, just briefly off topic: if I weren’t a mod and didn’t necessarily have a fondness for floor plans, I would have run for the hills after the second page.
A bunch of questions come to mind, but these were also asked in the course of reading by and , so I didn’t mark or remember them. However, I don’t get the feeling these questions have been answered yet.
So if you care about our understanding, improvements, or criticism, please go through this thread again, mark their questions, and answer them :)



Partly too big (running area overall, kitchen, WC, garage/entrance, all already mentioned), partly cramped (dressing room, bathroom)



In terms of number, plenty, yet I find the size of 150 for the double windows somewhat narrow.
For me, all this together with the room doors and openings as well as the muntins would look too busy.
Kitchen has 3 doors, dining room has 3 doors, living room has 3 doors, dressing room has 3 doors... even if doors are just openings... I find that confusing at the moment and wonder if coziness can come from this. Surely smaller cabinets and dressers will also be placed between the windows. Together with decoration and pictures, I’d be out of this house quickly ;) ... out of the house :)

I have to say that the architectural drawing is partly different from yours...



Guest room near the WC I find quite good again. Nicely solved for guests or maybe later for elderly parents or something?! :)
However, I would place the shower on the outside wall, so you don’t have that wall in the entrance area.



I also think that 3 meters must be kept to the north nevertheless. But we could be wrong ;)





What does “for now” mean? For the time being…
Surely one wishes for togetherness in the first years, but if children are not excluded, they must be planned for as well, especially rethinking the door to the dressing room (you want to be naked in there sometimes and a child doesn’t necessarily have to share their closet with the parents).



Hm, they immediately caught my eye in the kitchen and bedroom ;)



In my opinion, the pantry is a complete failure unless you move around the kitchen on roller skates or operate from this room.
The kitchen has already been discussed…



Put a general allowance of 3 cm+ on every wall, tiles also add thickness. A bit of furnishing can also be cozy. (I’m surprised by the purist approach in this house ;)) A generous shower should have a raw dimensions of 100 cm. We’re not talking about poor people here.
A bathtub is needed (already mentioned). If not for old age or illness (we don’t get sick ;), then maybe for laundry, cleaning, or changing habits.
I miss SPACE in the bathroom.



We also have 50 cm shelves instead of 65 cm cabinets: but <88 cm between them? …you can’t really see your clothes in width, let alone plan a drawer. That has to be opened. Or how does that work for two people?

It is a cumbersome house: 3 extensions, huge entrance hall… while partly the extensions are sensibly arranged (south niche), but I would definitely miss the west wind protection.
I like entrances you can see from the yard driveway. The gable roof is way too high for the building (more storage space for what?), the attached hip roof on the extension doesn’t fit.
I like unconventional designs. And you don’t want to be like the others right away. But that can certainly be solved better.
Unmentioned issues see the two girls.
Nevertheless, I do not believe our criticism is effective, you’re already too much in love with your future pride.
 

kbt09

2015-08-12 19:36:27
  • #3
The building distance to the northern property boundary has not given me any peace of mind. But, it is actually permissible. It is described quite well on the page of the surveyor Jörg Schröder under the term [Abstandsflächen]. I have already studied §34 with a commentary ;) ... There could be a limitation if, in this area, the current development sets a de facto building line almost at xx m from the property boundary as the surrounding development.

But, let's assume this distance is possible.
 

venraij

2015-08-12 20:56:31
  • #4
Sorry, can I maybe still organize this in the first post, or would that make everything even more confusing?

I was (positively) surprised by the many remarks and couldn’t keep up with the answers, I will catch up on that :-)

No, I am really open to suggestions, I don’t necessarily want to defend my draft, just clarify the background thoughts ...

I think children can be considered excluded, the house would be big enough, but it is not planned ...

The idea here was that the partition wall on the left and right between dining and living room is open so that there is a separation but still two rooms. This is also the intention of the sliding door to the kitchen.

Here the idea was also to have openings that can remain open, the room next to [n] is my wife’s domain and this way she could use it as a dressing room etc., then you have three rooms that can be separated as needed, at least that’s the theory.

The muntins in the picture are from the architect, I am also not a fan of muntin windows :-)

I don’t understand that now, the entrance is practically next to the main entrance, the kitchen and the garden are easily accessible, can you describe the problem more precisely – is it too big or too narrow? I didn’t want to make it wider in order to have a straight edge to the extension on the north side, in between its roof will be continued to a veranda in front of the front door.

I actually found the kitchen quite practical... Is this about the large distance between sink, fridge and stove? The easiest solution would be to put the stove on the island, but I don’t like that idea because of grease splashes etc. Or did I overlook something else?

OK noted, I think it could also be accommodated afterwards in the guest WC, if the need arises it just has to be planned from a structural perspective. For the next few years we can do without it, we hardly ever used our previous one.

There really are 2.3 m in the plan – the other dimension is the office wall. But a few centimeters probably are not the difference in that argument? The partition wall to the WC should not be full height, honestly it’s a compromise. Maybe a few centimeters can still be found for more space in front of the washbasin, otherwise I can’t think of any real alternatives.

Hmm, maybe I can take a little from the bedroom. Otherwise, one could think about drywall partitions as backs of built-in cabinets, that would bring 20 cm?
 

venraij

2015-08-12 21:11:34
  • #5

Yes, the main problem is probably my decision to 'add' a basement. The total area of the additions is smaller than what a basement would require but it needs space next to the house. Therefore, the garage has to give way. I can't think of a better solution for the plot.


Originally, we had planned an additional room for coats and shoes. But if you leave the access to the addition open, this room becomes very small. Hence the idea to realize the room with built-in wardrobes. Does this seem too huge?


The roof pitch came from the architect, I had planned it 5 degrees less, he said that due to the stepping of the house this would look good with the addition?
 

venraij

2015-08-12 21:14:54
  • #6
Why is that problematic, because of the spatial effect? Otherwise, it's actually practical if you can use the space you need in front of the shelves on both sides. If it were more square, you would leave more space unused in the middle, right?
 

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