Plot with cut-in power station / L-shape - idea search

  • Erstellt am 2019-10-22 22:42:17

kaho674

2019-11-07 18:31:40
  • #1


I don’t understand the question. Your house is already positioned as far north as possible. Where else do you want to create garden space now? Or is it about the cars because of the curve?
I wouldn’t want to park like that my whole life. That’s why I would definitely rotate them and, if necessary, rather build over a small corner. Just a suggestion – stairs, corridor, WC, etc. would of course need to be beautified:

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But I only see more garden if you buy the neighboring property.
 

ypg

2019-11-08 08:51:37
  • #2
Do you also have measurements?
Because in your initial planning with the garage, it depends on every half meter how much space you have for turning and maneuvering.
We ourselves have such a situation, only with a driveway 5 meters wide. Altogether, we have 10 meters width in front of the garage door....


Nobody needs a garage unless you want to keep company cars with MPs on the property overnight. Otherwise, a carport or a bare parking space will do.



However, I also believe that it is precisely NOT allowed to be placed within the sacred 5 meters.


That applies to boundary construction within the building envelope. The street strip outside the building envelope is, to put it simply, doubly protected so that the visibility of the street course remains generous and cars can stand in front of their garages without blocking the street.
So you are moving on shaky ground with your planning, which can be very annoying if it later turns out that you are not allowed to build there.
But in my opinion, the yard is too narrow anyway to move around comfortably and safely with the cars there.
That will annoy you every day.



Is it that ugly? Then you can put plants in front of it. It offers a protective wall and you can still create a small biotope, a seating area, or whatever here. It is also a garden after all.



The garden... the garden is also in the other three directions. It does not only consist of “behind the house” or “in front of the terrace.” A garden is created by connecting areas with plants and seating areas or other elements.


But then, unfortunately, the kitchen will be very far from the terrace. In everyday life (when the terrace plays a role due to the weather), one has more the connection kitchen/garden table because the garden table on the terrace replaces the dining table in the dining area. Family members walk this route dozens of times a day—whether they want to or not. Also the children: fridge/sandbox.
Everyday life or the evening at home in good weather simply does not involve sitting on the sofa. A large living room is okay, but actually more space is needed in the everyday living area, and since you probably have other things to do during the day than move around in the living room, one should reconsider some things.
Also this statement:


I am always amazed when I read something like this: 8:30 am great sun. Unfortunately, we also have our kitchen in the east (for other reasons).
But we don’t get any benefit from it. We can also see the sun in summer when we leave the house between 5:30 and 7:00, but then we are at work. Means: the sunlight entering the house can only be enjoyed after 4 pm. And as already said: in summer life then takes place outside and/or in the kitchen. Therefore, a west kitchen would be more advantageous. And in winter it is dark anyway after work.
Weekend: sleep in, breakfast in bed (possibly with children), ... the fact remains that you actually spend more time in the kitchen in the evening than in the morning. Only in TV commercials do you see breakfast as it is still mostly imagined.




What would be the alternative, for example? Rotate the house...

I’d say: the house has to adapt to the driveway and parking situation on this plot, whether you want it or not.
And then you have to start looking at whether you should change something and live with it. You almost always have two options, and binding yourself with “actually we would have…but...” or “then the garden will be smaller” is a corset that tightens more and more. You should try option 2 with the goal that the corset loosens again. Because you have less quality of life from the 1.5 meter wide lawn if it means on the other hand that every evening and morning you all have to cruise back and forth on your yard for 5 minutes.

Therefore, I would see the garage as boundary construction, but to be accessed from the front. That makes happy.
Then there are 11 meters in front, leaving 19, which you can well divide on the length between house depth and plot.
If you are afraid that the “10 meters of garden” won’t be enough because the terrace also takes up space, then you can also plan a corner terrace in the southwest or let the sight lines run diagonally. Diagonal is more than straight.
Either you plan the house now as you already have it,
Or you think about your daily routine, whether you really have the coffee table in the afternoon in the living room like in the 70s or rather the shared time in the kitchen and dining area. Where is daylight used more and when?
Personally, I would mirror the house then, be happy in the office on Saturday morning and in the kitchen in the afternoon.
Also advantage with small children: in the west there is enough space for the children, who can be quickly supervised through terrace doors in the kitchen.
I think Katja already implemented it that way.

I like the floor plan itself. The faux pas are already mentioned (bedroom wall), that’s all.
However, I would loosen the symmetry a bit, especially on the south front. Also consider that the shadow of the balcony/terrace roof falls to the east but swallows a lot of light in the middle of the house in winter.
You could swap the rooms, i.e. the gallery, upstairs if necessary. However: you come up the stairs... there is the gallery... nice and bright... nice... simply nice... beautifully sunny... invites you to dry laundry there... in advertising you would now turn back time and of course say: (forget the laundry)... invites you to enjoy a sundowner there.
 

11ant

2019-11-08 15:02:03
  • #3

Cars aren’t such scaredy-cats at all, and especially if they have a sibling car, they even like camping in the front yard. But it seems to me that nowadays cars also have helicopter parents.


*in brackets*


The delusional wish that the kids would still grab a snack on their low-level flight to the school bus is probably the reason for many breakfast counters.


On my hit list of neednots, symmetry ranks number one, even before the garage intermediate door. The stupid door is “only” superfluous, whereas (dogmatic) symmetry either gets its extra portion of facade width or it bullies some passage widths out of the floor plan somewhere.
 

Traufgänger

2022-06-19 17:30:16
  • #4
Hello everyone, I have to bring up the thread again. Due to the arrangement of the transformer station on the property, I am attached to my garage, which dictates a certain layout. We were quite happy about the large room in the south, but the question is whether to prefer kitchen EAST-SOUTH or KITCHEN West South. I'm basically torn back and forth here. Maybe someone has a cool idea? :)
 

kbt09

2022-06-19 21:13:26
  • #5
Great .. how about some suitable floor plan examples? Since both versions have something, the other conditions are decisive .. terrace, paths, supplies, etc.
 

Traufgänger

2022-06-19 21:51:23
  • #6


hello kbt, thanks for the hint. I will upload it right away, still need to edit out a few things.
 

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