Floor plan / planning of a single-family house with a granny flat on the upper floor

  • Erstellt am 2020-08-26 21:38:59

Oimelwutz

2020-08-30 22:57:35
  • #1
For the demolition, we have already found a local company. They charge just under €20,000 for demolition and filling the hole. Clearing out and gutting will be done mostly by ourselves. Farmhouse?

Currently, we are somewhat torn about how to proceed. With an open kitchen and without a bathtub, some of the criticisms here in the thread could be addressed. A higher knee wall would make the apartment upstairs more usable. The stairlift remains... I still have the unpleasant question: If he can no longer get into the apartment independently with the lift, can I even manage the care?

We will definitely sit down soon with a "construction consultant." We know him through two connections, and he has offered free help. I hope we find a good dialogue partner in him.
 

Anitra

2020-08-31 00:34:51
  • #2
Hello,
as already mentioned several times, your current floor plan is not ideal considering a possible wheelchair. But even without a wheelchair, I find it rather uncomfortable. The dining area is like a cave.

In the end, we decided on an L-shaped kitchen. Where today there would normally be an island, there is only our dining table. Actually, I wanted a separate living room. Now, for the sake of our daughter’s wheelchair, it has become a completely open cooking/dining/living area. As few corners and edges as possible. Very practical. In addition, we do not have a classic long corridor to the private rooms. Children’s rooms, bathroom, and bedroom branch off from the end of the living room. Roughly as if your kitchen had no wall to the bottom and right side of the plan. Saves a lot of square meters.

I would only omit the bathtub if you are 100% sure about it. A wheelchair-accessible bathroom does not necessarily have to be large, just well arranged...
If you want a height-adjustable sink – I searched forever until I found something nice. You can’t see that it has this function and as long as you don’t need it with a stool or wheelchair in front, you don’t have to use the height adjustment yet...

At first, we also definitely wanted a garage and a connecting door to the house. Now I am glad that we have a very open carport. The usable width is increased because we left out both the entire wall with the doors and the wall that extends the house wall.

To be honest, the upper floor doesn’t impress me either. The corridors seem quite cramped up there, among other things.

The basic idea of you downstairs, the father upstairs seems sensible to me.

The staircase needs space at the bottom and top for the seat of the stairlift. In my opinion, with a wheelchair downstairs, you can’t really get through properly if the rails for the lift run along the floor and the seat of the lift is down below. Please make sure to look more closely at the subject of the stairlift and its space requirements.
Also, the staircase should be rather wide for it, and the wall must also be able to support the mounting for the lift. Also keep in mind power supply for the lift. Of course, it could be that you never need the stairlift. But if you do, it shouldn’t be in the way and must be easy to install.
A platform lift requires significantly more space. With it, you could go up with a wheelchair. But it only makes sense to plan this if the upper floor is also wheelchair accessible. At least I would make the upper floor rollator-accessible. A rollator can significantly extend independence because it also provides safety if you can still do a lot but are somewhat unsteady...

Honestly, I would completely erase your current floor plan from your mind and start again from scratch.
Sorry, I know my criticism is harsh and only partly constructive.

By the way, what are the cardinal directions? Is the house entrance in the east?
If you have questions, you can also contact me directly via private message if you have enough posts.

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haydee

2020-08-31 05:54:39
  • #3
We had demolished a farm. No matter how the house is designed, care at home is not always feasible. Caregiving is physically, mentally, and time-consuming. On top of that comes your wife's health condition. Don't fixate on the idea that your father doesn't have to go to a nursing home if you now build "correctly." Aging is very individual.
 

Oimelwutz

2020-08-31 15:47:07
  • #4

Thank you very much for your message and your advice.
The sink actually interests me, and the harsh criticism is unfortunately justified, so I am glad about it.
I will certainly come back to you with a few questions via private message. Thanks for your offer.


Ah!
That was exactly the thought I wanted to address with my question.

We will follow your advice and discard the floor plan and plan it again or have it planned again.
I have already noted many points from this thread as mandatory points. I will expand on that and then use it as a basis for the planning.
Let’s see if we can fit the granny flat into the ground floor; otherwise, we will keep it on the upper floor and prepare it as well as possible.

Thank you all for the feedback! I will get back to you with the new plans and hope that we will do a bit better then.
 

haydee

2020-08-31 15:55:54
  • #5
Put the page from nullbarriere under your pillow. You will find functioning bathrooms and also complete floor plans there, as well as the necessary minimum dimensions.
 

Oimelwutz

2020-09-16 11:39:26
  • #6
Hello everyone,
in a few weeks we have an appointment with a "construction consultant" who had already promised us support. Whether we will then work with him, whether he will help us find other companies/architects, or whether he will simply act as a dialogue partner, remains to be seen. In any case, we have taken some of the momentum out of the whole thing.

Nevertheless, we think about it every day, and since we don’t want to completely discard the construction company that already gave us an offer, we have drawn a floor plan ourselves once again.
A few things from the old floor plan have been incorporated, but we have also tried to include your criticism.

For now, we are satisfied with it again, and that is why I would like to have the new floor plan evaluated by you once more.
We have initially left the upper floor (OG) aside. Knee wall height and roof shape no longer matter to us. We have various ideas about that.

What bothers us about the floor plan are the following points:
- Passage to the children's room
Later on, our daughter will surely like that the parents are not immediately standing in the middle of the room, but unfortunately, a bit of space is also lost.
- Hallway
It will be dark; we hope for some relief from glass doors toward the stairwell and living room. Still not ideal, but we could live with it.
- Utility room (HAR/Hauswirtschaftsraum)
Due to the angle and walking paths, a lot of storage space is lost. Maybe the technology could also be moved to the upper floor (OG)?

I hope you see our new floor plan as a step in the right direction and look forward to your frank criticism.

P.S.: The windows are not yet finally drawn (at the sink, there is definitely one missing). And can you tell me from when messages can be sent here?
 

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