ypg
2014-02-16 00:05:12
- #1
The upper floor should also work with a gable roof and an attic, right?
Floor Plan Ideas Single-Family House 140 m²
- Erstellt am 2014-01-06 12:27:14
Kazazi
2014-02-16 00:21:38
- #2
Interesting... the 10x10m floor plan is quite similar to the alternative I came up with with the east staircase on the gable side, except that the staircase is pushed all the way to the wall, the utility room "L" is rotated 90 degrees and moved to the north wall, and the shower bath goes into the gap where the stairwell is here... something like that, right?
In your drawing, did you leave the staircase on the north side and also not change the roof orientation? That wouldn't work up to the attic with the gable roof for us. Or did I misunderstand?
Many thanks again & best regards,
Kazazi
In your drawing, did you leave the staircase on the north side and also not change the roof orientation? That wouldn't work up to the attic with the gable roof for us. Or did I misunderstand?
Many thanks again & best regards,
Kazazi
ypg
2014-02-16 00:25:26
- #3
I have rotated the roof - gables are in the north and south.
Kazazi
2014-02-16 01:21:44
- #4
Aha, I see! Then it is actually quite similar to the East staircase variant, isn't it? I'll go ahead and stick it into this post now; I think it's more clear that way (sorry, I'm still a forum newbie! Mods, feel free to delete the other thread). I'd be interested to hear what you think - better or worse than the midday U-staircase, or whether and in which direction it might be worth further exploring the gable staircase direction (like below or as suggested by ypg).
Alright, now it's time to hit the sack!
Alright, now it's time to hit the sack!
Last night I came up with an alternative idea for the floor plan of our planned single-family house of about 140 m2, which I would like to put up for discussion here. You can find the current status of our main design with a central U-staircase in post #78.
There are two reasons for the alternative idea: first, the wish to try out whether our desire to extend the normal staircase all the way up to the attic might still be feasible without affecting so many rooms; and second, a tip we received yesterday to reconsider whether we could design the house in such a way that, when the kids are out of the house later, the upper floor could be rented out or the ground floor used as a separate living unit for elderly parents.
Therefore, I have now tried to tentatively place the staircase and the entrance in the east gable; you can find the sketch below.
I particularly like the less cramped living room here, the larger room 1, and the bigger wardrobe space in the upstairs rooms. Also, in the attic this arrangement would, in my view, have the advantage that the storage area could be designed to the left and right of the staircase, making it easier to create a nicely-sized, separate large room in the attic.
My doubts currently focus on the following:
First, the utility room, which now appears as an angled corridor; but I could imagine that one could live with that. As I have envisaged it now, the part accessible from the stairwell would be for building services, and the other part, accessible from the interior hallway, for laundry; in case of later separation of the levels, these parts could also be separated. Do you think this could work, or do you have a better idea?
Second, the windows, because in the upstairs floor these would either have to be moved about 25 cm further outward and thus come very close to the roof (see last picture) or they would have to be narrower. Do you think any of these options could work?
If there are other aspects where this variant would fail in your view, I would of course like to hear about those as well, as well as any suggestions on how it could possibly work better.
Perhaps a small explanation about the staircase: At the moment, I have designed it so that underneath there is a storage/pantry accessible from the kitchen/living room. Alternatively, the staircase could also remain entirely within the stairwell and the space under the then open staircase used there.
Best regards,
Kazazi
ypg
2014-02-16 09:55:48
- #5
Aha, I see! But then it's pretty much similar to the east staircase variant, isn't it?
You will probably only come across similar floor plans now, because as is well known, the function lies in the details
By the way, I found my ballpoint pen idea again on the WWW under Lindenstraße 143
Kazazi
2014-02-16 18:52:09
- #6
I don't agree with that. You can think about what it's like to have a "stranger" living above you. You fulfill your dream, only to share it again.... no!
All good arguments against splitting a house, no question. There are certainly many arguments in favor as well, but at the moment, I'm not concerned with the fundamental weighing of pros and cons. Simply having the option available seems appealing to me because it would allow more flexibility to react to certain circumstances later on or to offer the house more versatilely if one wants to sell.
What mainly interests me right now is whether the alternative floor plan with the gable staircase could work or not, and what its advantages and disadvantages compared to the one with the central staircase are. We need to ask ourselves whether it would be worth asking the architects for a new design in this direction again or if we should better stick with the central staircase.
As I see it now, the challenges with the gable staircase are the utility room layout and the window placement. If that is considered solvable, it would encourage us to proceed in that direction. If not, or if there are other drawbacks we haven't considered yet, we would rather refrain...
So far, I have heard that a separated staircase feels less friendly—but that could be solved by only creating the separation later, only if it ever comes to a split. Do you see any other problems with this variant?
Best regards,
Kazazi
PS – I'll still take a look at Lindenstraße 143 – first, I have to get 3 kids into bed after their birthday party.