Floor Plan Ideas Single-Family House 140 m²

Thank you very much, I can see everything clearly!

New Draft & Skylight

Hello dear ones,

we have further developed the last draft and before having the architect fine-tune it, we would once again appreciate more feedback from you on the pictures and the following questions:

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From our point of view, the ground floor is now better because the hallway area is more usable and the utility room is larger – OK?

We designed the kitchen with an additional section so that it should hopefully be sufficient for the 5 of us – OK?

As you might be able to see in the ground floor picture, we have widened the house by 25 cm. More would hardly be affordable. What do you think – dispensable (the "old" house wall still faintly shows for comparison), a good idea, or pointless because it makes hardly any difference?

I am still not quite satisfied with the closed staircase block in the center of the house; furthermore, we were told that an open wooden staircase could save us about 1500 euros per floor. We are now considering giving up the storage room and instead using the space under the stairs as open storage with nice fitting storage furniture. However, I might keep the coat wall directly opposite the front door. An alternative would be concrete below and wood above into the attic, but I can’t quite imagine this transition looking good. Your opinion on the options?

On the upper floor, we have created more hallway space at the expense of the previous "entry corridor" of room 4, to let daylight into the hallway and have space below for a dresser available to everyone. How do you find that?

In room 4 I would also install a skylight in order to be able to use this entry corner well as a workspace or dressing area separated from the "main room" with a room divider. Sounds good?

Also, in rooms 2 & 3, additional windows on the south side should enable such room division or better lighting of the rooms. We are still wavering between a midday-large transverse gable dormer (like at Flair 134 from Town & Country) and skylights. The architect advised against the latter because they can overheat the rooms too much; however, I have since heard that this can be well countered with external blinds and that you still save a lot of money compared to the dormer. Purely in terms of space gain, I do not need the dormer in the rooms, so if there is nothing else speaking against the skylights, we would allow ourselves the dormer purely for external aesthetic reasons. However, I am increasingly warming to a dormer-less exterior look, so I wonder whether the dormer money might be better used elsewhere. How do you see that?

Otherwise, we now want to increase the roof pitch from 45 to 48 degrees to gain more space in the attic. Does that make sense?

Further suggestions on other aspects are of course also very welcome.

Thank you in advance and best regards,

Kazazi

Good morning dear forum, another question regarding the list in the previous post just occurred to me: Despite the good size, there is no space for a continuous 3m wardrobe in all the OG rooms! Since we ourselves are still far from the 3-meter wardrobe space, it would not personally bother me much if one of these rooms is used as a bedroom, but since I have heard the magical 3m number here so often, I would like to know if this limitation would, for example, reduce the resale value?

It would be really great to receive some feedback on the questions in this and the above post this weekend, as we are under some time pressure in the negotiations. Many thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Kazazi

since we are under some time pressure in the negotiations. Many thanks in advance!

Even if you don’t want to hear it now, you are in a dead end.

You always talk about an architect, but that seems to be the employee or appointee of a BU or GC, otherwise you wouldn’t have to make the effort to improve a botched planning.

Regarding the last floor plan:
Overall, there are only a few rooms that are not negatively affected by the central staircase.

Ground floor:
The hallway is complicated, and you walk straight towards the cloakroom, lots of space, little use, poor effect.
The guest room offers maybe 70 cm of passage width between bed and wardrobe. Okay for rare guests, but it could be better.
Kitchen and dining are lazily interlocked without clear zoning.
Living area must also have been carelessly accommodated, and the residents must decide whether they want to experience bad home cinema with a tilted neck or look into the living room; outside there is probably something very ugly, and you’re not supposed to look there at all.

Upper floor:
Which room is the master bedroom?
Room 4 not, with a 2-meter-wide bed there remains only 40 cm passage width to the staircase accident and the wall, so no.
Room 2 neither, for the same reasons as before; additionally, the sloping roof makes the situation worse, or is the wardrobe from the previous plan.
That leaves room 3, a planner with talent might even be able to make something out of it, but unfortunately you don’t have one, shame.

I would like to hear how the house seller sugarcoats the defects; hopefully he’s at least good at that.
In the end, he can at least say: But you designed it yourself, what was I supposed to do?

Hello,

... improving a messed-up plan.

If this statement refers to the most recently added draft planning, it is daring ...

Overall, there are only a few rooms that are not negatively affected by the central staircase.

On the contrary, it is finally placed correctly and forms the basic prerequisite for the later, structural expansion of the attic.

The guest room offers maybe 70 cm of passage width between bed and wardrobe. Okay for rare guests, but it could be better.

If you wear glasses, clean your glasses; otherwise take another look at the floor plan The dimension from eaves side to interior wall of room 3 is 4.04 m according to the plan; plenty of passage width then.

I assume you confused the length of the projected interior wall with the room width; this also applies to later statements.

I would like to hear how the house seller glosses over the defects, hopefully he is at least good at that.
In the end, he can at least say: But you planned it that way yourself, so what should I have done?

I said this last night in a personal conversation and gladly repeat it here. When users post their floor plans, in my opinion every commentator must respond not "only" from their own point of view, but keep the questioner's objective in mind.

Better is always possible, no question - but often the budget does not allow every recommendation and not infrequently some comments/recommendations regarding supposedly "better" floor plan issues are generally nonsensical and anything but practical; if they are even reasonably buildable at all.

Rhineland regards

Even if you don’t want to hear this now, you are in a dead end.

I appreciate every feedback, even if it’s formulated a bit sharply

The hallway is labyrinthine, and you walk straight into the wardrobe, lots of space, little use, poor effect.

The front door can be easily slid upwards, so you don’t walk towards the wardrobe but into the entrance hall. I thought an opening towards the wardrobe might not be bad for the purpose of putting things down first, but I’m happy to be convinced otherwise. Are there any more opinions on this?

The guest room offers maybe 70 cm of clearance between bed and wardrobe. Okay for rare guests, but it can be better.

I assume you mean room 1? It’s true, it’s a bit tight here but still acceptable, I think. What would be your specific idea to improve this? That would only be at the expense of the already rather small living area, right?

Kitchen and dining are lacklusterly intertwined without clear zoning.

Could you explain in more detail what’s wrong with that? To me, it seemed like an advantage to have the dining table adjoining the open kitchen in everyday life. It will usually be shorter then. For bigger gatherings, we can easily move the table further away from the kitchen or even turn it 90 degrees. Is all this a wrong idea, and if so, why and how could we do better?

Living had to be unlovingly accommodated as well, the residents also have to decide whether to experience bad home cinema with a crooked neck, or look into the living room; outside there is apparently something really ugly, which one should not look at at all.

The selection and arrangement of seating furniture is still completely open; we need new anyway. Only the large wardrobe I would definitely like to accommodate in that area, because I believe placing it elsewhere would make the room too tight, right? More helpful would be an assessment of whether the living corner, roughly from the room divider shelf (which can still be pushed up a bit), can generally work in terms of shape and size?

First floor:
Which room is the master bedroom?

Not room 4, with a 2-meter-wide bed the clearance width to the staircase accident and the wall remains 40 cm, so no.
Not room 2 either, for the same reason as before, besides the sloping roof complicates the situation, or is the wardrobe from the preliminary plan.

The white wardrobes in the picture are from the preliminary plan, but something like them might be needed if you need the 3+ meter wardrobe (see my previous post). For our own use, any of the rooms would work for sleeping.

That leaves room 3, a planner with talent could even make something out of it.

What do you envision could be done better?

@ Building expert: Your comment on the limits within which the planning must move speaks to my heart. Sure, with 20+ sqm more I could plan greater things, but financially that is simply not possible. As I said in my penultimate post, a maximum of +25 cm width and/or a dormer come into question.

Therefore I would be very happy if further improvement suggestions consider this framework and are also as constructive as possible, so that with some diligence and sweat we can make progress. I would especially appreciate answers to my concrete questions in the last two posts, because these are the areas where we are still most uncertain.

Many thanks,

Kazazi