Floor plan design city villa

  • Erstellt am 2015-11-27 08:20:15

Legurit

2015-11-27 13:55:29
  • #1
Both in the hallway and in the living room you have dance floors that surely cost 30 T €... you can often go to the disco for that amount ;-)
The children's room is unfortunately narrow. Sure, it works, but that can't be the standard for a 300 T € project.
Here's an example: we have a room that is 3.15 m * 5.7 m (or similar) - of course that works - but the neighboring room with 4.2 m * 3.9 m feels much more spacious.
Furthermore, I am missing house exclusions, heating, and technology.
 

Invi85

2015-11-27 14:09:34
  • #2
As I said, the plan is not final yet and still changeable. That’s why I posted it here to get criticism and accordingly also improvement suggestions on how to implement it better.

One children's room will still be enlarged to at least 2.9m and the storage room will also be given a little more space, as already mentioned a few posts earlier, by reducing the parents' bedroom with its 21sqm.

The note about the WC and the height not matching the width is a good point that needs to be addressed again.

I am not an annoyed construction expert, I just find it a pity when criticism is given without any improvement suggestions or even without being specific. Because that doesn’t help me, and I am here precisely for help.

Sure, extra costs will arise because the two bathrooms are not on top of each other and the kitchen is also in the other corner of the house. But I don’t want to plan my house completely according to the pipes just because of the costs. I simply like to have the kitchen in the south where I have a view of the garden and the WC... where else should it go except there? The only possibility would be to swap the bathroom upstairs with the parents’ bedroom, then everything could be together again. Is that worth considering?

The utility room is mainly intended only for laundry, heating, and technology with a little storage space. Additional storage space will be under the landing of the half-landing staircase. There we will install a small chamber with a half-high door. The rest will go into the garage. We also designed this only trapezoidal because the lots are so damn slanted. An alternative would be to align the house at the boundary and partially sacrifice the back garden and have some garden in the front. Or place the garage straight and build a dirty corner :-


The idea with the large open space is that the dining room can move there later if you want to furnish the bay window differently. My girlfriend would like to have the dining room in the bay window, but I rather see a corner with cozy chairs there later...
 

wpic

2015-11-27 14:12:17
  • #3
You should have a new design created by another architect within the specified budget, without this fixed idea of the "Stadtvilla" or any kind of concept of an ideal architecture from the catalog of prefabricated house companies. The design is not usable; it should also not be worsened by attempting unnecessary improvements. An individual house design can achieve much more, even with a limited budget, if approached creatively without prejudice and with a willingness to experiment. What is usually seen in new development areas is not the standard to strive for.
 

Bauexperte

2015-11-27 14:31:46
  • #4
Hello,

Accepting casings/noise everywhere where it’s not wanted? I don’t know, that wouldn’t be my thing – regardless of the extra costs.

The architect in the group gave you the right hint; go to another architect and have him plan within your budget. Because if you just swap the bedroom with the bathroom, the other crutches in the plan remain. *I* would, for example, put the office/guest room on the garage side and make the living/dining/kitchen/guest WC area more exciting. Not to mention that with your opening sentence you assign the nicest side of the plot to a utility room :confused:

That won’t work; your architect should have explained that long ago. You have 2 doors in the room, which is actually about 2.00 m deep and about 3.50 m wide; you can’t put anything behind the doors. Even if you want to install a ground source heat pump, the indoor unit takes up space, as do the connections for sewer/water/electricity. Then there are drainage pipes from above and space for later maintenance of the systems must also be considered. Where do you want to put laundry and a small shelf then?

You do need that, but you “buy” it with an expensive platform staircase. That logic escapes me. If you have a tight budget, then you save in a sensible place, don’t you?

Why a “dirty corner”? Don’t your bins – with us there are 5 (residual waste, paper, yellow bin, and 2 brown ones for garden waste) – have to find a place? Not to mention that with a straight garage you save a lot of euros, because you can rely on the standard of prefabricated garage providers ;)

Best regards from the Rhineland
 

ypg

2015-11-27 22:39:44
  • #5
No, we do not know your calculation or that of the architect, but there are empirical values per sqm of living space, whether building in the north in the flatlands or near Munich.
Floors and painting are mostly also done as DIY work even in "turnkey" houses, but you can't save that much there either.



We do not want to doubt that, but a design by an architect looks somewhat different here. This rectangle looks almost botched and also often appears in amateur drawings ;)



... also child’s room and bathroom... they just seem to have resulted, but not been planned.





Unfortunately, it is not about changes here by improving the design by shifting one or two walls. What is typically seen here is that a standard was only changed by one meter in width and depth. But since here, with a square floor plan, the rooms are classically accessed by a corridor from the center, they of course become longer if you don’t plan something out of the ordinary and individual to the room program .
It is of course a pity to read that something like this is about to be submitted for the building permit.



Certainly, that should not be the focus of the builder, but for an architect these are basics with which he plans so that a nice and at the same time functional house design emerges, which does not include unnecessary costs and construction measures.



Good example: the utility room, as drawn, is only a passage room that has a storage area on one front corner and on the other back corner. There isn’t even a full wall that could hold a shelf.

Basically, I find no well-planned door except in the office that can house a closet behind it: in every room you furnished, you bump into/look at a closet when entering. That is not an optimal use of living space and at the same time nothing looks more spacious even though a few more sqm are used everywhere. An exception might be the dining area – but normally the table there will not disappear into this bay window, but be furnished more centrally.
The bedroom hardly allows shifting away from the wall because the door also needs space.
Think about whether you would like to use utility room and storage as they are planned...
What has not been mentioned yet: personally, I find that the windows elongated downwards do not fit.
That makes me wonder what kind of windows those are supposed to be since the lintel supports are nowhere indicated.



Normally, you do not feel a sloping plot negatively, besides... oh, the building expert already wrote how to divide a plot (trash, compost, laundry...) Rather, you can make the plot more individual with trapezoids.
That the garage is too large in proportion was also already written by ...

Well, you have not only received criticism about the calculation, but a lot of input about the design regarding the mistakes that were made.

If there are any more questions, feel free to ask them.

Regards Yvonne

P.s. Reading neighboring threads and other floor plan discussions also helps clarify :)
 

wrobel

2015-11-29 09:39:49
  • #6
Moin Moin

I can only agree with Pickartz's opinion and advise you to do the same.

Example storage room: 4.5 m aisle for a 3.2 m cabinet
With a door positioned in the middle of the room, a 2 m aisle would allow for a 4 m cabinet.

Example bathroom upstairs: With 13 m² floor space, only 1.5 m of wall space remains for 2 washbasins,
with one side directly next to the door and the other directly adjacent to a floor-to-ceiling window facing the street.

And which daily necessities would you want to take from a room about 1.3 m high?
So invest your money well and start over.

Olli
 

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