Floor plan ~160 sqm - Exchange of opinions

Definitely plan more space for the staircase!

Thank you for the many replies. Yes, the hallway downstairs is also too narrow for us, but so far I haven't found a way to widen it, as otherwise we would have to take space from the study again. Yes, the staircase could be too tight, we will ultimately have to see what the architect says.

And good point about the 3.3m in the bedroom, that is really too tight.

Swapping the bathroom and the bedroom would not be nice for us in terms of orientation. As it is currently, the bathroom would be in the east. I find it quite nice to have sun in the bathroom in the morning, as we currently do in our apartment.

The first rough draft (variant 605) still pleases me the most.

Basically, it should be clear that a bay window costs money. In the latest drafts, you have a dining area in the kitchen and one directly next to it, connected with the living room. So the kitchen could be made smaller without this unnecessary dining area. Also, you won’t do yourself any favors if you always have to walk around a table to get to plates or spices.
That you designed the kitchen as a passageway from the entrance to the living room, but have a hallway exactly parallel to it, is also wasted space.
What kind of rooms are these on the ground floor; I recognize a study, and the other is probably the utility room.
In the bathroom downstairs (in the latest draft) leave out this kink; the gap is too small for a wardrobe, so it’s unusable.
If you have two children, I can tell you from experience that two bathrooms upstairs, if at all possible, are better than one very large one with an oversized bathtub.
Oh yes, the children’s rooms should be roughly the same size to avoid years of discussions.
In the upstairs, the roof pitch (2 m line) should not be forgotten. That limits the furniture placement options, etc.
You should definitely have an architect review the planning. :)

I still like the first rough draft (variant 605) the best.

Basically, it should be clear that a bay window costs money. In the latest drafts, you have a dining area in the kitchen and another one right next to it, connected to the living room. So the kitchen could be made smaller without this unnecessary dining area. Besides, it’s no favor to have to constantly walk around a table to reach plates or spices.

That shouldn’t be a table, but a kitchen island :)

That you design the kitchen as a passageway from the entrance to the living room, but have a hallway running exactly parallel, is also wasted space.

We have the additional door in the kitchen so that you don’t have to run through the living room with your groceries. Or did I misunderstand you?

What kind of rooms are those on the ground floor? I recognize a study, and the other one must be the utility room.

Yes, exactly.

For the bathroom downstairs (in the latest draft), leave out that bend; the gap is too small for a coat rack, so it’s unusable.

For the coat rack, we assumed a width of at least 1 meter. I would say that’s enough to hang a few jackets. How wide did you plan your coat rack to be?

If you have two children, I can tell you from experience that two bathrooms upstairs, if possible, are better than one very large bathroom with an oversized bathtub.

Well, in the original floor plan we found from a provider, two bathrooms were also planned upstairs. Personally, though, I think children don’t need their own bathroom. On the one hand, it has to be cleaned too :confused:, and on the other hand, the children eventually move out and then I wouldn’t have any use for that bathroom anymore.

You should definitely have an architect look at the planning. :)

Exactly, that’s also our plan. We just want to incorporate our wishes beforehand so that during the meeting with the architect we can start from the same basis.

That shouldn’t be a table, but a kitchen island :)

Ok, I like kitchen islands, they look good, but they shouldn’t restrict you in the kitchen, like always having to walk all around to get a fork from somewhere. For these reasons, despite having a fairly large kitchen, I decided against the island. But if you cook and chop a lot, maybe even together, ok.

What I also wanted to ask....have you roughly calculated the costs for the house? With a bay window and kitchen island and all the fancy stuff, it won’t be cheap. A house also includes the access path, like paving work for example, and a fence.

We have the additional door in the kitchen so that you don’t have to run through the living room first when you bring in groceries. Or did I misunderstand you?

The grocery thing is understandable, but that’s exactly why I like the first draft better. There you only have to go through the hallway to get to the kitchen. The living area, with kitchen and dining and living room, is on one side, and utility room and study on the other, a clear separation.

So, in the original floor plan we found with a provider, there were also 2 bathrooms on the upper floor. But personally, I think children don’t need their own bathroom. On the one hand, it has to be cleaned too :confused:, on the other hand, the kids will move out eventually and then I wouldn’t have any use for that bathroom anymore.

You should think again whether you’re building for now and the medium term, or if you’re planning and building for your retirement, or for what it could be like someday. Nothing lasts forever, and when the kids have moved out, it could well be that the house then feels too big. Then you move, otherwise, you have to clean various empty rooms ;) Incidentally, teenagers also like to have friends stay over overnight. If it doesn’t bother you that they all use your shower and so on, ok. :)

Ok, I like kitchen islands, they look good, but they must not restrict you in the kitchen, like always having to walk around to get a fork from somewhere. For these reasons, despite having a fairly large kitchen, I decided against the island. But if you cook and chop a lot, maybe even together, okay.

Now I have looked at the kitchen island again. It doesn't work as simply as I drew it after all. The paths would be too narrow for that; we have to come up with something better.

What I wanted to ask... have you calculated the costs for the house? With bay window and kitchen island and fancy stuff, it won't be cheap. A house also includes the access path, like paving works, for example, and a fence.

For this house, we have an offer of about 230,000€. We have included the kitchen, etc., in the additional costs.