Attic floor plan in the existing building

That would be the current idea, with the bathroom at the door (not properly dimensioned, just an idea ;))

would give the child more light

would give the child more light

Even with a room facing south? I'll think about it again. So far, I haven’t had the impression that the room is dark, and if the recommended 12% refers not to glass area but to window area, that actually fits. I have some concerns about heat with roof windows. But I’ll try to check more often in the next few days to see what the current situation regarding light is.

It's a difference whether you quickly grab something or want to read and write

Do you know how many windows with the strangest drawings from this thread I have open here on my phone? :eek: But I fought my way through :p I have to laugh... I was actually only looking for the north arrow, and the puzzle with the “hip roof windows” has also been solved... :) Many things are somehow obvious...

The roof is actually measured at 40 degrees with the protractor. Whereas the 2-meter line is measured in practice in relation to the window, likewise the current knee wall in the bathroom is 1.10, so the 1-meter line should also roughly fit.

Is it 40 or is it rather 38 degrees? I don’t know any house built with 40 degrees... usually it’s 38 or 42 degrees. Basically, I don’t think the 10 cm difference (2-meter line) matters, since the roof space/area for the desired rooms is quite large. Actually, without a sketchpad, I see only one or two possibilities to accommodate 2 children’s rooms and one bedroom if nothing is done to the windows. However, I stumble over “one or two children’s rooms?” That is a difference after all!

I didn’t know about the bedroom.

Living rooms need a second escape route – on the floor... that would then be a vertical window.

Although I have to say that the windows currently present on the gable sides are also totally sufficient for the rooms (if you’re not thinking about a new build?).

Windows serve lighting, ventilation, and the view. New or old building. Every family member should have the right to look outside from their room and get enough daylight. If a room wants to be a living room, lighting and ventilation must be ensured. If you don’t find that important, then you might as well remove something completely unimportant in an educational way, namely the dressing room ;)

In my eyes, that would have the disadvantage that the bathroom would become narrower and only have a roof window.

Since a bathroom is not a living room, a double casement window is sufficient. Without a sketch, a simple idea: Bathroom plan left next to the stairs (east) The two south windows are divided between two children’s rooms. In the north, the parents can have fun. Use the extension as storage; the area between the extension and stairs becomes the living corridor. Double casement windows for bathroom, both children’s rooms, and living corridor. If there’s still money left, better put two/three double casement windows in the living corridor. In a pinch, a room can be separated here again. And all this nice, simple, and without slanted walls, otherwise it gets cramped.

A simple idea without a sketch: bathroom to the left of the stairs (east) The two south-facing windows are divided between two children’s rooms. In the north, the parents can have fun. Use the extension as storage, the area between the extension and the stairs becomes the living corridor. Double casement windows for the bathroom, both children’s rooms, and the living corridor. If there is still money left, rather install two/three double casement windows in the living corridor. In an emergency, you can then partition another room here again. And all this nicely, simply, and without sloped walls, otherwise it gets blocked up.

Thanks to you too, first of all. In principle, this is similar to my last version, just without the sloped walls and without "storage"?

Regarding the children’s rooms, the thing is that I don’t yet know exactly if a second one is needed. The first idea was to design one room so that later, if necessary, a wall could be drawn in the middle and then there would be two; it only became clear to me during the planning process that this does not work with this floor plan, or at least not with two identical children’s rooms. Currently, only one is needed. In an emergency, the plan would be to have both children in one room at first, and later, the attic only for the children and the parents move back down.

Regarding windows: this is not supposed to sound as if I have anything against windows/light and sun :). My impression is just that especially in new buildings, an infinite amount of glass surface (especially floor-to-ceiling) is installed, and later you realize that if the house and plot are not appropriately sized, that is not so great after all, and suddenly the windows are covered or blocked. Houses from the ’90s, for example, are not per se dark without floor-to-ceiling windows either. (Although such a glass front is of course great, you just have to have the appropriate space). In our case, the space under the window, for example, is also practical for the heating. And as I said, with us (existing building, not hermetically insulated), I worry about heat build-up (but I might inform myself, maybe that’s no longer such a problem with newer windows, it’s just something I know from my parents’ house).

But don’t get me wrong, I do take things up and along. Personally, from my own preference, I would actually prefer a large window in the bathroom rather than in the bedroom (of course different in the children’s room). The escape route argument does reach me, as you can see. And especially with regard to possibly a second children’s room, that also makes sense.