Attic floor plan in the existing building

  • Erstellt am 2021-02-05 18:03:03

Erlkönig

2021-02-06 15:58:09
  • #1


A photo won’t help either, because almost everything is covered up.

Regarding the "purlins" (?), there is simply a beam from the floor to the ceiling standing in the room that supports the roof (that’s why they can’t be removed). I don’t think that’s unusual. For example, in timber-framed houses, there are often such support beams in the room.

About the no-go areas. Those are not no-go areas, it’s just that our roof has no knee wall, it basically rests directly on the walls of the ground floor, so it slopes upwards from there. However, you can’t really use the area so far back on the slope, which is why I want to create a "storage wall"/"knee wall" there, so that the wall goes straight down from the roof. I also don’t think that’s unusual.

What is unusual and for which I haven’t found a name yet, and which I can’t photograph either because it’s covered up, is that from the right side, in front of the small roof over the extension of the L, there is basically a roof within a roof. That means, in the room on the right by the two windows, there is also a slope "backwards" toward the small roof inside the room, so from that room in the small roof, it would look as if an inverted slope is coming up from the floor. I know this is hard to understand (personally, I have never seen it this way either, so I couldn’t even search for a suitable picture on Google). That’s why, with the current room layout, there is a long narrow corridor into the small roof, because next to it on the right and left (behind the current covering) there are slopes.
 

kbt09

2021-02-06 18:12:26
  • #2
And, one could take a photo of that. It is also really difficult to follow you because with each post the floor plan is aligned in a different direction again. The most reader-friendly way is if all floor plans are oriented so that north is at the top ;) ;).
 

Erlkönig

2021-02-06 18:45:24
  • #3
I gladly accept the criticism regarding the orientation. I was so eager to respond quickly to everything that I didn’t pay attention to that. Regarding photos, I quote myself: "that is clad," i.e. currently that would be a photo of a room with a completely normal slope and a photo of a hallway or a room with a straight wall. If you imagine on the first picture that the dashed lines are the beginning of the slope or the roof surfaces, I think you can get an idea of how it looks. Basically as if the gable roof of the bungalow were completely done, and only an about 1.5 m wide "path" into the hip roof is open. That’s why I wanted to simply "plan out" the room and pretend it was just a normal 9x14 house with a gable roof and see how one can fit a nice floor plan onto the area.
 

icandoit

2021-02-07 07:53:08
  • #4
Since you do not know the plans, you cannot make use of right and left. Which plan do your details refer to? Is the extension in the west?

The small windows can hardly adequately illuminate the rooms.
 

Erlkönig

2021-02-07 09:08:11
  • #5


Plans with north attached. (Damn, one of the images won't rotate)

Then the simplest option would be a large room on each side of the gable and the bathroom to the left of the stairs. So basically similar to now. What a pity.

 

icandoit

2021-02-07 09:12:07
  • #6
You wrote there is a bathroom in the attic, where is it?

Is the knee wall already constructed?

I tried to draw this with your information.

It is not so easy to plan as you imagine.

The first step from the planner is a cm-accurate inventory. Since we cannot do that, you have to provide it.

Place the ground floor plan on the copier so that at least something to scale can be seen. When copying do not cut off the dimension chains.

Then take the copy and draw in the existing parts. For example, knee wall to knee wall, this will then be dimensioned cm accurately. The height of the knee wall is also very important.

I have entered the external dimensions, wall thickness, chimney, wooden supports, stairs, and windows. This shows that if the wall is on the axis, on the right and left there are only about 3 m up to the knee wall.

This results in a passage between the wall and the chimney of 1 m, between the chimney and the 2 m line 0.5 m

Windows are very small, you can hardly bring light into the rooms with that. It should be 1/8 of the floor area. Bedrooms 3*4m are already only 1/12

At least double-wing windows and/or floor-to-ceiling windows belong here.

Exact measurements must be made for the dimensions, otherwise it is difficult to help here.

Your path should be to a planner. Who can at least draw the existing condition for you.

Then you can think about how to implement your ideas.

How did you remodel the ground floor? All without a plan?
 

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