Architect performance phase 1-4 - Which documents are required?

So we definitely need service phase 5. Just a stamp is not enough for us. But service phases 1-4 have to be done beforehand as well.
Therefore, it’s not wrong to also determine the price for service phases 1-5.

... or also the one for service phases 3 to 5 of the architect who accompanied you up to the preliminary inquiry (?) or or. We can gladly take a closer look at what is needed in the specific case. Perhaps you want to build with a general contractor, then maybe only service phase 3 would still be required ...

... or also the one responsible for service phases 3 to 5 of the architect who accompanied you up to the preliminary inquiry (?) or or. We can gladly take a closer look at what is needed in the specific case. Perhaps you want to build with a general contractor (GU), then possibly only service phase 3 would be needed ...

The price up to the end of service phase 5 with the previously commissioned architect is significantly higher than other offers. HOAI instead of a fixed price, after all.

We are actually not inclined to work with a general contractor.

The price up to the end of service phase 5 with the architect commissioned so far is significantly higher than other offers. HOAI instead of fixed price, after all.

I would always ask an architect for three offers, namely A. service phases 1 and 2 with the option to add B1. or B2. B1. service phases 3 to 5 with the option for service phases 6 to 8 B2. service phase 3 because whether you need service phase 4 depends on the further path (about which one only decides during the dough resting phase). In any case, the number of architects willing to contract is roughly halved if you request an offer including service phase 5. You could almost say that service phase 5 is the small Gerddieter filter (and module C then the large one).

We are actually not inclined toward a GC.

I am also not inclined for or against a GC (my "royal road" is always to tender in such a way that a GC is not excluded). Rather, I just wanted to point out: if GC – especially timber frame GC – then service phase 4 can already be obsolete due to redundancy.

One could almost say that service phase 5 is the small Gerddieter filter (and module C then the big one).

Unfortunately, I don't understand the sentence because insider information or "catchphrases" like Gerddieter are not familiar enough to me. Could you briefly explain in one or two sentences what you mean? Do you mean that service phase 5 is so complicated or elaborate that architects are reluctant to do it?

Do you think that service phase 5 is so complicated or time-consuming that architects are reluctant to do it?

Yes, and service phase 8 as well. The reason architects
- for reluctance to carry out service phase 5
is actually that you have to "really make an effort" there.
- for a preferred offering of the scope of service phases 1 to 4
is that the architect follows the market, which demands this stamping work from him more often than the "real, true" full architectural work. One must not forget: SH3D, Roomsketcher & Co set the value perception of the "client as consumer" for the planning activity, from whose perspective the "large" additional price is seen as a kind of "lawyer's fee" for obtaining the stamp.

Unfortunately, I do not understand the sentence because insider info or "winged words" like Gerddieter are still unfamiliar to me.

is a member of this forum. He has, so to speak, earned his merit as a sort of patron saint of criticism towards incompetent architects. In essence and in result, unfortunately he is often right to approach this profession with a "healthy distrust." Because bad architects cost clients a lot of money, and the very worst architects are also characterized by a complete lack of shame regarding their client-damaging incompetence. This applies to the cost dreamers far more than to those who only poorly listen to the aesthetic wishes of their clients.

For the classic, first-time single-home builder, the architects to be warned against are unfortunately hardly distinguishable from the majority of good or even recommendable architects. That is why support in the search for architects makes up a considerable part of my work, more than I would prefer. If the little word "if" did not exist, I would much rather accompany clients only in their joy over the new home. I always comfort myself with the thought that colleagues in the expert witness field see much more suffering.

Can you briefly say in a sentence or two what you mean?

As my loyal readers know: no - short answers are not my strength ;-)

Thank you, now I understand more. Maybe also precisely because of your not so short answer ;-)

For the classic, first-time self-builder homeowner, the architects worth warning about are unfortunately hardly distinguishable from the majority of good or even recommendable architects.

What would be worth warning about? Really creepy floor plan because it’s totally convoluted? Or rooms totally dark because windows were planned incorrectly? Or cost estimate way off? Something like that? What can really go wrong if you end up with the wrong one?