Architect performance phase 1-4 - Which documents are required?

That's exactly what I'm talking about: that the ceiling is only poured after I have already definitively told the architect where which lamp, which access point, or whatever is going to be.

That's exactly what I meant… I expect an architect to manage this "construction is an interlocking process" (quote from architect) in such a way that there are no such surprises… I don't want to have to worry about when what needs to be prepared…

FOR THAT, a phase of finalizing the planning decision (or its final correction) is needed. Even the architect must eventually be allowed to feel certain that there won't be a thousand little changes anymore, but that work can proceed structurally towards the goal. A dog driven crazy sleeps poorly, it’s no different for an architect

That EXACTLY is what happened. It was finished for us by the 4th iteration. No idea if that falls into the category of "a thousand times" until that point. It's fine for us how it went and hopefully continues.

That was/is clear to me. That’s exactly what I’m talking about: that the ceiling is only poured after I have long since definitively told the architect where which lamp, which access point or whatever is going to be.

Either we are talking past each other or I have a wrong impression of my expressive ability :) That’s exactly what I mean, at that point the client should have noticed that lighting was not yet a topic if he is then suddenly confronted with it at that stage. Therefore, I also see part of the failure here with the client.

Therefore, I also see the failure partly on the client’s side.

Since you are addressing me indirectly, I will respond: you can see it that way, but you don’t have to ;)… especially not when you live 220 km away from the construction site, the architect is managing the construction, the electrical planning was already completed, but not a word was said about the connection with the ceilings. And yes, I was certainly more naive 20 years ago, but even today I expect from an architect, who costs a five- or six-figure sum, a sensible plan and early information. By the way, this was not about the competence of the client, but about what can happen with a bad architect.

Either we are talking past each other or I have a wrong impression of my expressive ability :) That’s exactly what I mean, at that point the client should have already noticed that lighting was not yet an issue if he is then caught off guard by it at that time. Therefore, I partly see the failure here with the client as well.

No. We are not talking past each other either, but rather have different opinions. The architect is a professional planner. He and the client are not mountain comrades who must be able to rely on each other. Instead, they have an asymmetrical contractual relationship, the client is the customer with layman’s privilege and the architect is the educated service provider with a duty of care, for which he must also take out professional liability insurance. The client does not have to carry the architect’s memory or check a checklist, he is not his copilot.

Exactly THAT is what happened. It was finished with us by the 4th iteration. No idea whether that counts as "a thousand times" up to that point. We’re fine with how it went and hopefully continues.

I’m glad to hear that. And no, a fourth iteration is no "thousand times" – I had deliberately named the "picture book example" Princess : after the house was completely rotated once and everything was back in its old place and I checked out – I believe even eventually lost patience – there were still another one hundred seventy (?) posts about the exact coatroom depth until the windows of the street facade were "straightened out" again and the thread was locked by moderation after 1,278 posts. Some clients take lap after lap by the pallet load, that knocks even the strongest sailor down. Sometimes I really don’t want to know the suicide rate among drafting slaves ;-)