150 Euro / sqm development costs = realistic or usury?

420k for the mini plot.

That is what my house including 1000 m2 of land cost.

I knew why I moved away from MUC back then.

Can you please explain that in more detail? What is RRB? And what kind of unsold areas? I am paying for work, not land?

Retention basin; this has to be newly created and also requires space. This of course will be charged to all plots. And then the BRW is also decisive for us.

Nordanney has already illustrated the other examples of higher land consumption and the resulting increasing costs quite well:

But in your case, a whole development area is being developed. Not only the sewer is being connected, but roads, parking bays, sidewalks, street lighting, underground paper containers, compensation areas are being created, etc.

Maybe you are confusing two different development costs? We paid 43k to the municipality for the development of the building area and we only have a little over 300 sqm of land. Additionally, we paid 16k for the development on the property with water, district heating, fiber optic, electricity, and sewage.

We also didn't find the development costs low, so I do understand that it seems high to you. But the point about the higher wage level hits the mark. When you eventually start building, you will notice that the prices for EVERYTHING here are significantly higher than what you supposedly research as normal on the internet.

I already see myself complaining :/ )

Not me!

You say that everything is basically correct, but then why does one read on all kinds of sites that said costs should usually only be around €15,000. My boss also had to pay significantly less here.

So, who could prove,

and then I am faced with excessive costs that actually shouldn’t be like that?

Whoever denies everything, doubts, and debates costs that he will never have anyway because everything will be awarded to others by then, will never get a piece of the pie and therefore has no reason to complain except about himself.

Here: land lease from 2012, development costs €40/sqm

Additionally, we paid 16k for the development on the land with water, district heating, fiber optic, electricity, and sewage.

These are utility connection costs, which are charged by completely different parties at completely different times. These costs are definitely not lumped together, budgeted jointly, or named collectively by “people in the business.”

I would be more upset about the 1350 euros than the 150 euros.

Should I laugh or cry about this. I already went over this topic extensively in the aforementioned, non-linked thread. To put it briefly, yes, I could puke squared when you know that from the start of planning (2018) of the new development area until now the BRW, which is decisive for everything, has risen by 74%! So yes... I am also upset (and even more so) about the 1,350 € ^^

Because it usually means the connection to the sewer system and the like.

No. From the aforementioned source (or is the source lying?) all the works mentioned here have already been broken down and costed. The conclusion was, quote:
“Roughly speaking, it can be said that most plots can be fully developed with a total price between 10 and 35 euros, at the peak (and fortunately rather rarely) a maximum of 70 to 80 euros per square meter of plot area. In practice, this means that as a rule, an equity share of at least 10,000 to 15,000 euros for development costs is to be expected.”

But the point about the higher wage level hits the mark. When you start building at some point, you will notice that the prices for EVERYTHING here are significantly higher than what you supposedly find as normal on the internet.

I roughly don’t pay triple the price for a car, a beer, or a visit to the hairdresser in Munich than anywhere else in the country? Even less do all uni-sono get three times the salary here?! But okay... let’s say the prices asked for here are as they are. What would have stopped the municipality from having these works done by a company from... say Saxony, or NRW, or somewhere else in Germany? At the customary prices there. And the work started before Corona, so that can’t be counted as an explanation. Sure... the municipality then thinks, yeah, I don’t care... the fool is the land buyer... uh, we’re still the ones with hereditary building rights anyway, whatever... then the desperate, blindly stupid leaseholder pays, who thanks us deeply and even kisses our feet. Sorry if I’m that sarcastic, but you can’t just always explain everything with “wage level” and swallow it helplessly?

Seriously, what if the executing companies had charged not 150 €/sqm for development but... 500, or 1000, or 10,000 euros per sqm? What then? Isn’t there an arbitration board that can check something like that against usury?

Here: land lease from 2012, development costs 40 €/sqm

So it can be done that way too.

Costs are completely normal. I live in Regensburg. Development 2013 125,- EUR. If you think it is too expensive, you can suggest to the municipality that you take over and coordinate the development.