Ventilated, suspended facade instead of ETICS?

  • Erstellt am 2016-10-17 19:17:43

garfunkel

2017-12-12 21:47:33
  • #1
Unfortunately, I don't remember the source. I found this when I was researching insulation materials myself.

When insulating a roof, if you only insulate from the inside, the rafters act as thermal bridges. Many therefore insulate the rafters as well, which makes sense. Alternatively, there is the exterior roof insulation.
With walls, it is similar with the battens. Theoretically, this means there is no 1cm² left that is not surrounded by insulation.
However, the battens sit on the wall, which itself is another insulation layer. Additionally, these battens are not as large as roof rafters. Therefore, the cold transmission is - probably - lower.

Nevertheless, crosswise insulation is better. Something to consider.
If you want to go for 12-16cm facade insulation, then I would insulate crosswise. The second counter batten would be worth it to me then.
 

alterego134

2021-03-13 12:47:07
  • #2
Yes, I know. The thread is ancient. But the topic fits like a glove, so I don't want to start a new post (if I should do that anyway, feel free to let me know).

Does anyone have experience with renovation and the subsequent installation of a VHF and the actual costs if possibly no personal contribution is possible? What's even more interesting: pictures of it? In the single-family home sector, it is really rarely done, I couldn't find quite a few case examples.

The significantly higher price compared to a WDVS is of course hard to swallow at first, but the advantages are also convincing.
 

11ant

2021-03-13 12:58:10
  • #3
The advantages of: what exactly? - I clearly remember that forty years ago the air layer was considered the genius stroke of thermal insulation; nowadays, however, I often read that it is considered even smarter to insert blowing material into the air layers. So: what exactly do you intend, and which "convincing advantages" (compared to what?) are your motivation?
 

Joedreck

2021-03-13 13:27:48
  • #4
Air insulates. Styrofoam, glass wool, etc. are basically only there to prevent the movement of air.
 

alterego134

2021-03-15 16:19:54
  • #5
The advantages compared to an [WDVS] (that is the comparison I was aiming for): - constructive separation of insulation and weather protection through ventilation (and thus hopefully a longer service life of the insulation material compared to an [WDVS]) - ecological sustainability due to the unnecessary bonding and later pure material recycling - free design of the facade - due to the free design of the facade, low-maintenance exterior elements are also possible compared to plaster

In contrast, primarily the significantly higher costs, which are somewhat offset by longer maintenance intervals.

I am simply interested in practical examples, ideally with concrete information (pictures, costs, etc.).
 

K1300S

2021-03-15 18:58:21
  • #6
I can gladly tell you what the price difference was for us between plaster with ETICS and curtain facade. Although we only planned it for the attic, the difference was quite impressive.
 

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