Turnkey prefabricated house - total price okay?

Oh, we would like a few more square meters (about 140?? - we need a children's room, bedroom, office, utility room). We could do without a basement if everything else fits. Otherwise, even a half basement (of course also a full one) would be okay (I don't really like those spider corners that much).

What convinces me, however, is your opinion on the completion of prefabricated house/conventional. Although at least the fixed price for a turnkey prefabricated house is set, right? Also the completion date, isn't it? And the KFW standard is more likely to be met if it is desired??

Under certain circumstances, we might have to settle for a semi-detached house, which certainly raises big question marks beside the future neighbors (what happens if they don't want to build quickly?) and the type of construction, but by having the smaller plot it also saves about 30k that could be invested in the house.

Building expert, your calculation worries me. I have 380k (after all 760k DM - even if no one likes to hear it) and apparently I am not able to build a detached house without worries!?

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Oh, we would like a few more sqm (around 140?? - we need a children's room, bedroom, office, utility room)

140 sqm of pure living space corresponds to approx. EUR 210,000

We could do without a basement if the rest fits. Otherwise, a half basement (or of course a full one) would also be fine (I don’t really like those spider corners that much).

The basement is not included in my figures; apart from the fact that a partial basement costs about as much as a full basement.

What convinces me is your opinion on completion prefabricated house/conventional.
Although at least the fixed price in a turnkey prefabricated house is fixed, isn’t it?

Also in conventional construction.

Also the completion date, right?

The same for both variants.

And the KfW standard is also more likely to be met if desired, right??

It is easier/cheaper for the prefab house industry—due to the construction method—to meet it; but that’s about it, because a serious prefab house variant is generally more expensive than a conventionally built house.

We might also have to settle for a semi-detached house, which certainly raises big question marks next to future neighbors (what happens if they don’t want to build soon?) and the type of construction, but saves about 30k due to the smaller plot, which could be invested in the house.

The saving on the plot is the only advantage—regardless of the type of construction. If the second partner in a semi-detached house is not in sight anytime soon, both variants must be designed as detached single-family houses on all sides.

Building expert, your calculation worries me. I have 380k (after all 760,000 DM—even if no one wants to hear it) and apparently I am not able to build a detached house without worries!?

You should free yourself from this comparison. Neither is the euro comparable 1:1 with the DM, nor are the building standards of 2001 comparable with today’s requirements. Currently, a Deutsche Mark is worth exactly as much or as little as the euro, depending on the country of the observer.

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haha, you are really addicted to the internet if you are still up at this time... oooops, me too

That would mean I need a total of 410 for 140 sqm ... plus kitchen? so rather 420 and up?
that would be over my budget... with that the dream of the house would be dead...?

That a prefab house is finished faster than a solid house is a misconception. It just suddenly stands there. But production also takes a certain amount of time. Just read through the forum and you will get a lot of useful information.

Production is the least of the problems. My provider produces the entire house within 6 hours. If it's a catalog house, and no big extras.
I watched the production and was amazed at how fast they work on the "assembly line."

The main problem lies with the number of customers. Our house provider, just like the one mentioned, has about a 12-month waiting time.

Regarding the price: be careful with the first offers. These usually refer to the house from the catalog. When you have the contract drafted, include as many extra wishes as possible, then your offer price might, but only might, come close to the final price. You always change something, and then it usually gets more expensive.
Also be careful with bargain hunters who promise you turnkey from 146,000 for 140 sqm. They have nothing to give away; if the base price is that low, the devil is in the details. What exactly is included and of what quality. Also, a keyword: how is the wall structure? KfW doesn’t say much about that at first...
Triple-glazed windows are heavy, what quality are the windows or the hinges? Can they bear the weight over the years?
Then with such an insulated house, one should always think about a residential ventilation system, and depending on the system with all extras, you are quickly at 10,000 €.
If you need to save money, a fireplace is the first place to start. Some extra costs have hidden here. Geothermal energy also repeatedly brings surprises in costs.

Additional building costs... here all the house providers are way too generous and pretend smaller numbers. It is not their responsibility anyway, and they can say whatever they want. You are reassured and sign... in the end, it becomes more expensive. My provider estimated something over 12,000 here. Meanwhile, we are at almost 40,000 €. Luckily, we were pessimistic enough during the planning.

Lucky: we faced exactly the same problem. Land too expensive. The solution was moving to the countryside. Instead of 350 - 800/sqm in Karlsruhe, prices in the Palatinate 20 km away were between 110 - 230 €/sqm. With a bit of luck and searching, we found a plot that cost just under 130 €/sqm and thus saved a lot of money that we needed for the house. We plan similarly to you and now have almost a 4 at the front of the price without many extras.

Expect that such an undertaking will cost you exactly that, with all the bells and whistles. ;D

Also expect that banks do not like supporting you in rural areas. That happened to us exactly, and we were denied a follow-up financing because of the location... financially that would have been no problem with our capital and income.

Moving in as quickly as possible, forget about that quickly again, it saves you a lot of trouble. Every craftsman worth his salt you approach today will probably give you the same answer... We are booked until mid-next year... come back then... Or they make the prices outrageously high. (A tiler wanted 7,000 € for 30 sqm tile area with 40€/sqm material, yeah right...)
Also, you should use the chance of the long waiting time to really get informed and become clear about what you want. A time buffer also brings the opportunity to always get several offers. Especially with earthworks, it took almost 8 weeks until we had 3 offers on the table. Building permits also take longer now because they are so overloaded. Banks dawdle and often keep you waiting 3-5 weeks for answers... all quite thrilling in the construction bubble time. When it bursts, it gets faster again, and you can buy cheap 5 or 10 year old properties.

P.S. I'm not addicted, just recently became a dad, and the little man decided we are awake now... well, he's asleep again... I am not

Hello,

haha, you are really addicted to the internet if you are still... uuuuuups, me too

No, not really - I just had a lot of office work to do yesterday and it got a bit late because of that

That would mean I need a total of 410 for 140 sqm ... plus kitchen? so probably 420 and up? that would be over my budget... so the dream of the house would be dead...?

"Der Da" has already given you the right answers. You can save money in several areas without much effort, especially on the living space; 120 sqm cleverly divided results in a nice little house.

Building was and is a compromise. You are surprised that for 380K - which is by no means a small amount of capital - you cannot build the property you imagine. Recently a user correctly posted here that in the past mostly privileged societies could afford building; in that sense, we are a step further today. You just have to see what is important to you - by the way, a new kitchen does not have to be considered at the very beginning of the house-building project, the outdoor facilities can still be realized the year after the new build, a parking space is also sufficient at first, etc. Rome was not built in a day; it did burn down though...

You come from NRW - where would you like to build? And have you already spoken with an independent financing broker?

Kind regards