minimini
2021-07-29 07:54:30
- #1
Thank you! A sink under the window would be an option that is probably relatively easy to implement for us and that I would also like. I will make a request to the kitchen-responsible household member ;-)
Terraced house kitchen: too expensive or reasonable price?
- Erstellt am 2021-07-28 22:03:01
evelinoz
2021-07-29 08:11:36
- #2
Did I claim that a kitchen has to be expensive to be functional? I’m just comparing $17k with a kitchen that is much larger and where I know every screw in the contract from Schüller, so similar but Systemat, PG2, Berbel hood, integrated fridge, separately integrated freezer, 4 x base cupboards, etc. The countertop is quartzite, about the same amount as here. And, 4 drawers per base unit. 
this kitchen, 520cm long (goes around the corner on both sides), apart from the real wood veneer, is not expensive. Handles, quartz countertop, faucet, appliances, MDF shelf, and lights were procured by myself. Siemens cooktop online >€700, except for a small freezer and hood (both Miele), everything is Siemens. The light fronts PG1, the dark ones PG6 were from LEICHT, assembled faultlessly by one installer in one day.
I’m surprised, not ypg, how especially men simply say the price is right without knowing more details and some have never bought a kitchen. Some even frequent the other forum. No, and none of the kitchen planners there would install a cooktop over 2 x 80cm base cupboards with a stone countertop. You first have to read what is sometimes botched during installation due to various reasons, poor communication, wrong planning, wrong ordering, wrong installation.
I find kitchens in terraced houses, 250cm wide ideal, short distances, etc. But today’s kitchen buyers aren’t impressed anymore, now it means "we don’t want such a narrow space," and then they add a little extension at the end or buy a U or worse G-shaped kitchen, which is so impractical when several people live in the household.
I’m surprised, not ypg, how especially men simply say the price is right without knowing more details and some have never bought a kitchen. Some even frequent the other forum. No, and none of the kitchen planners there would install a cooktop over 2 x 80cm base cupboards with a stone countertop. You first have to read what is sometimes botched during installation due to various reasons, poor communication, wrong planning, wrong ordering, wrong installation.
I find kitchens in terraced houses, 250cm wide ideal, short distances, etc. But today’s kitchen buyers aren’t impressed anymore, now it means "we don’t want such a narrow space," and then they add a little extension at the end or buy a U or worse G-shaped kitchen, which is so impractical when several people live in the household.
Myrna_Loy
2021-07-29 09:42:13
- #3
I mostly agree with you, but the question was whether 17,000 euros is too much for a kitchen. And with what the OP presented, that is an average kitchen studio level. So not too expensive, not cheap, but of course you can get more out of it if you want to make the optimum out of your kitchen.
(The visible part of the kitchen below is exactly our entire layout :D Up to the door passage.
(The visible part of the kitchen below is exactly our entire layout :D Up to the door passage.
Did I claim that a kitchen has to be expensive to be functional? I am just comparing $17k with a kitchen that is considerably larger and where I know every screw in the contract from Schüller, so similar, but Systemat, PG2, Berbel hood, integrated fridge, separately integrated freezer, 4 x tall cabinets, etc. The countertop is quartzite, about the same amount as here. And, 4 drawers per base cabinet.
This kitchen, 520 cm long (also goes around the corner on both sides), if you disregard the real wood veneer, is not expensive. Handles, quartz countertop, faucet, appliances, MDF shelves and lights were sourced by myself. Siemens cooktop online >€700, except for a small freezer and hood (both Miele), everything is Siemens. The light fronts PG1, the dark PG6 was from LEICHT, assembled error-free by one installer in one day.
I am surprised, not ypg, how especially men just say the price is right without knowing more details and some have never bought a kitchen. Some also hang out in the other forum. No, and none of the kitchen specialists there would install a cooktop over two 80 cm base cabinets with a stone countertop. You first have to read what is sometimes botched during installation for various reasons, poor communication, wrong planning, wrong ordering, wrong mounting.
For example, I find kitchens in row houses, 250 cm wide ideal, short distances, etc. But today's kitchen buyers are no longer impressed, now it's called "we don't want such a narrow space," and then a small annex is attached at the end or a U or even worse a G kitchen is bought, which is so impractical when several people live in the household.
Myrna_Loy
2021-07-29 09:51:05
- #4
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this kitchen, 520cm long (continues around the corner on both sides), except for a small freezer and hood (both Miele), everything is Siemens.
Which model is the extractor hood? Has it been retrofitted with a cover? Our kitchen planner said that, to his knowledge, something like that does not exist pre-made in this form in Germany.
ypg
2021-07-29 10:25:27
- #5
I claim that natural stone is actually rather affordable.
I also don’t read anything about natural stone, rather the look. I don’t find the division of workflows sink and cooking very appealing either. There is more to be gained there. Good planning doesn’t cost more. The PG, even I tend without background knowledge and googling on Häcker to the cheap variant, so stone look, is certainly due to the available budget. Personally, I would go for a solid-colored door since the optical variants only look that way, namely cheap. Besides, you get tired of it quickly. It’s like a stone-look wallpaper in my opinion. That can’t do it either, especially as time moves on.and the Comet is PG1, so melamine
Myrna_Loy
2021-07-29 10:36:17
- #6
or apricot-colored washed walls :) we all remember that, right?I also don't read anything about natural stone, more about the look. I don't find the division of workflows between the sink and cooking very appealing either. There is more potential there. Good planning doesn't cost more. As for the PG, I also tend without background knowledge and googling with Häcker rather towards the cheap version, so stone look, which is certainly due to the available budget. Personally, I would prefer a solid-colored door because the optical variants just look like that, namely cheap. Besides, you get tired of them quickly. It's like with a stone-look wallpaper. In my opinion, it can't do it either, especially since time has already moved on from it.