Single-family house with >180 sqm / basement / garage

2018-05-11 08:07:57

I have to admit, we are also building big. Children's bathroom, parents' bathroom, dressing room, guest room, office, and basement with a large hobby room and basement bathroom with an additional kitchen for later use as a separate apartment. We will easily reach the million ... but it's worth it to us. The children get their own space and we have privacy again.

2018-05-11 08:25:40

No, envy is not in my nature. Large houses may gladly stand next to us. And three doors down there is something like that too.
Only, an employee of mine, younger, much younger, I am his boss, he built lavishly years ago. Money was not enough. A side job, making music at festivals in the evenings, this and that. He bends over backwards for house and home, now his son is grown and his wife, who is always alone because of house and home, has someone else... he is desperate, now everything is shaky. A lifelong dream ends in disaster.
We, on the other hand: 2 children, 34 years together. First rent, then a [REH], 184,000 marks, cramped, simple, but paid off, we are still together and now have our almost paid-off bungalow, our children have their parents, an intact home, our grandchildren have grandma and grandpa who get along, we go on vacation, keep a sailboat, etc. Karsten

that one is only partially related to the other. Of course, you must be able to afford what you plan. By partially, I mean the topic of equity, "own contribution," and involving the wife in the house planning. It is clear (or at least increasingly likely) that the family and the wife get left behind if, for example, you can only afford a 200m² house by factoring in 50k€ equity (solo).

But I don’t see a direct connection between building expensively and separation.

That shows how important the topic of equity is. High burdens (financial, emotional, etc.) simply fuel conflicts and increasingly offer potential when a relationship is not solid. Then, unfortunately, examples like what you described can happen.

The man sinks into work, the woman doesn’t understand the man (in the worst case vice versa or both together). Then the end is preprogrammed.

2018-05-11 08:55:12

Thank you for the many answers, even if some were somewhat controversial

Precisely to avoid falling too much into daydreaming, we want to get a sense of what is actually possible. From the answers, it is clear that a large house for 400k does not seem feasible. Surely we could add some more to the budget, but then we would end up exactly in such a scenario where you can no longer afford big vacations and other gimmicks.

What I am still interested in now... if I take the 2000 Euro/sqm approach for a rough calculation. Are the ancillary construction costs added on top of that, or are they already included?

2018-05-11 08:58:39

The ancillary building costs of the house yes, but no furniture, kitchens, lights, no gardens. Therefore, play it safe, plan with about 150 sqm. Look at house floor plans related to Scanhaus Marlow Marlow or similar. Do not build a city villa, but 1.5-storey with a bit more knee wall. Pay attention to common window and door openings. No bay windows, angles, etc. No basement. No technical gimmicks. Gas and solar, good. No EIB.396/]KNX[/URL_INTERNA], no PV, no geothermal. No fingerprint doors. Then there will still be money left for garden, paving, etc. Karsten

2018-05-11 09:04:55

The ancillary construction costs of the house yes, but no furniture, kitchens, lights, no gardens.

Are you sure that the ancillary construction costs are included? I have always calculated without them and am doing well with that.

The DIN 276 also calculates without them. Here, only the pure building services engineering and the building structure are included.

Our architect estimated €400 for a gross volume, and the basement is neither room-high nor plastered (so building structure and building services engineering are standard - i.e., no photovoltaic system, KNX, blinds, etc. included).

2018-05-11 09:05:26

-1800-2000 per sqm living area normal standard, Energy Saving Ordinance 2016 -Basement xy -Additional construction costs 30-50000 -Garage 35000 -Painting and flooring included in EL -Outdoor facilities 20000 -Kitchen, lamps and miscellaneous from own funds Edit: upgraded equipment +50000

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