Plot selection in the new development area for single-family house - ranking

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11ant

2025-04-16 17:34:06
  • #1

It would also be "E/D" buildable, meaning only for a semi-detached house if the neighbor wants a semi-detached house.

Refugee accommodations in the form of apartment buildings are currently mostly designed for subsequent use by (social) long-term tenants. So for "normal families" who could rent publicly subsidized housing without a misallocation fee.
 

ypg

2025-04-16 17:45:20
  • #2
Would a semi-detached house or more neighbors be a problem? One neighbor can be more restless than 3 neighbors
 

-Malte-

2025-04-16 20:28:41
  • #3


Correct, but you can’t necessarily assume that. For some reason, the plot was taken off the market shortly before the marketing started. Whether it was sold to someone else or kept as a reserve for the future is unclear.



We do not categorically exclude a semi-detached house, but we would generally prefer a single-family home. The very situation here, where you get “thrown together” with an unknown building partner and then have to agree on a joint plan, offers potential for conflict (I remember the Goalkeeper build here in the forum). Even here in the city, there have already been some problems with these constellations. As long as this can be avoided, we would therefore prefer to act independently.

More neighbors are not inherently the problem. It just generally offers more potential for conflict and coordination. Related to the tender here, for example, number 17 with only one direct neighbor would potentially be different from number 21 with six direct neighbors.
 

K a t j a

2025-04-16 22:45:32
  • #4
19, 20, 22, 17 would probably be my order.
 

11ant

2025-04-17 01:35:45
  • #5

Exactly, that’s why my warning.

The possible reasons are varied. And you really have to assume with high probability that the preferred person, for whatever reason, who would be your neighbor here, will get ahead of you. Whoever lets an E/D plot be taken from the lottery for themselves has effectively decided (and thus also for you) whether they want to build E or D. The one who submits their building application first practically takes the buyer of the other half-plot hostage. Bad case: they want to build D, then you also have to build D, a normally sized semi-detached house. Worst case: they want to build E, then you also have to build E, which then becomes a towel house.

The problem also threatens here, as you can already see from the fact that the B-half-plot is not taken out of the lottery. If the municipality were aware of the problem, it would only allow "team applications" for all E/D plots. Unfortunately, the responsible parties regularly deal too little with game theory and only want to follow the market "lean" and liberally.

Three types of plots face three types of applicants, which unfortunately do not perfectly "match”. Plots of the type "E only" are unproblematic because they are neutral with regard to neighbors’ preferences. Plots of the type "E/D" are practically only suitable for "D or towel," as long as they are too narrow for detached construction. In this building area, there are both "real E/D" plots (1 to 3, 18 to 30) as well as plots called "E/D," but factually suitable only for D or towel (4 to 11, 31/32).

Applicants with a clear E preference have it relatively easy, as only plots of the type "E" make sense for them to place their tokens on. Applicants with a limited budget also have it relatively easy because all plots of the type "E" are excluded for them. Applicants with the attitude "better a semi-detached house plot than empty-handed" would be better off with the unfortunately not offered two-stage lottery here as well. If you can afford an "E" plot, then don’t gamble with the hostage risk, but only apply for this category.
 

-Malte-

2025-04-17 10:19:36
  • #6
, interesting aspect that I hadn’t seen before. You are right that according to the development plan, E/D is allowed for some plots. However, in marketing, a clear distinction is made between plots for single-family houses and semi-detached houses. For the pure semi-detached house plots, there simply isn’t enough space for a single-family house. The other way around, of course, is the case for the single-family house plots with E/D. I will inquire with the city whether it is contractually stipulated that a single-family house must be built on these plots. If it were really the case that a neighbor could theoretically be the first to obtain a building permit for a semi-detached house and thus set a precedent, that would be totally stupid. The more I think about it, the more I assume that something like that is contractually excluded. But let’s wait for the feedback.
 

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