Planning luminous room height - experiences?

Hello,

The difference between 2.50 and 2.60 is probably not that big.

You should rather ask again; I see it differently.

Our venetian blind system will disappear into the suspended ceiling. The structural engineer has to calculate some mass out of the lintels. That also solves the problem.

You are building in Bauhaus style, have taken suitable ceiling heights into account from the very beginning – I assume the living/dining area is about 50 sqm – and then you ruin it to accommodate the venetian blind system? If 2.90 m marks the raw construction height, what about the floor construction?

On Bauhaus buildings, external venetian blinds look great, we have already considered them for a penthouse and a current project. In none of the cases did we need 30 cm to accommodate the necessary electrics.

Kind regards

Hello,

You should ask again; I see it differently.

You are building in Bauhaus style, have taken appropriate ceiling heights into account from the beginning – I assume the living/dining area is around 50 sqm – and then you ruin it to accommodate the roller shutter system? If 2.90 m marks the raw construction clearance, what about the floor structure?

On Bauhaus buildings, external roller shutters look great; we have already considered this for a penthouse and for an ongoing project. In neither case did we need 30 cm to house the necessary electrical wiring.

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Sorry, I didn’t go into much detail: the floor structure is not included. Therefore, the raw construction clearance is even higher! From the floor to the ceiling (which has already been suspended) it is 2.60 m. The suspended ceiling logically contains more lines, e.g. also water pipes (if I understood correctly). All technical installations, basically. The 30 cm are “rounded.” Just as much as necessary to accommodate the roller shutters. They require the most space upwards.

I personally find external roller shutters quite awful. They spoil the entire beautiful look. Also, over time unsightly dark spots form above them. But taste is known to be subjective. We want the look to be really minimal, and an external roller shutter box would disturb that image. We will have a casing in/at the lintel to accommodate the roller shutter system. This will then be plastered normally.

We saw and approved this on the house of our architect himself. After 10 years, it still looks really great and clean there.

And yes: the living-dining-cooking area is a little over 50 sqm. Kitchen in Bulthaup style – very minimal and handleless. Cabinets built into a drywall partition so that only the doors are visible... I’m looking forward to it.

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Hello,

There are logically even more lines in the suspended ceiling, e.g. also water pipes (if I understood that correctly). All technical stuff, basically.

Are you sure about that?

I personally find exterior venetian blinds quite awful. They ruin the whole beautiful look. In addition, ugly dark spots form over time. But taste is a matter of opinion, as you know.

That is true. I have nevertheless attached a picture of an exterior blind – I think it fits the Bauhaus style perfectly.

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Hello,


Are you sure about that?

Yes, I am quite sure. The architect said he would no longer have anything installed in the screed because if there were ever a water damage, "only" the ceiling would be affected and not everything at once.

That is true. Nevertheless, I attached a picture of an exterior blind - I think it fits perfectly with the Bauhaus style.

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But this is not what I understand by an exterior venetian blind system. It will look exactly like that with us, only the walls will be plastered white.

By exterior, I understand those awful boxes that are stuck onto the house wall (i.e., on top).

It should look like in the picture.

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By externally mounted I understand those unspeakable boxes that are stuck to the house wall (i.e. on top).

Externally mounted is logically from the outside. You mean surface-mounted. There a box protrudes from the wall.

Hello,

The architect said he wouldn't have anything installed in the screed anymore, because if there were ever water damage, "only" the ceiling would be affected and not everything at once.

That is, I think, "six of one, half a dozen of the other," either way – heating shutdowns, pipe bursts, etc. have the fatal characteristic of occurring on weekends or during vacations; always when remedying them is not so easy to organize – you have "wet feet" or all the "good things" come from above.

I only know of pipe installation within a suspended ceiling for ventilation systems (I refuse to offer ceiling heating), otherwise everything is installed beneath the screed. If the corresponding pressure tests are done beforehand, nothing can really go wrong; the maintenance-intensive connections are above the screed anyway.

Why does your architect recommend this practice to you? I'm interested, I'm never too old to learn

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