Planning floor plan / first draft for first feedback

I take the liberty of asking for further explanation on this statement as well.

I really don’t know what else I can explain, since it is so clear?
I also googled once; the terms "introverted house" and "introverted living room" already existed. However, this thread is quite far ahead for the latter.
My work is indeed creative, also thanks to my parental home, but it doesn’t belong here.

@ OP:
Even if you only made it to service phase 4, you at least received a cost calculation. I don’t see how you can now change the planning accordingly without solid construction expertise from whoever (assuming the same size and equipment) in such a way that you can save the 40% overrun only by adjusting the cost group 300 (cost group 400 will remain the same or could have been adjusted (reduced), some other parts partially as well). Moreover, you have a right to receive a budget-compliant plan (unfortunately with tolerance, but that’s how it is). And what does it mean now that the architect continues to accompany you? And which "professional" is ensuring the fine tuning?

Now to the planning:
The self-design shows an average house with a gable roof, which can be built.
But does it also fit the individual plot and your lifestyle?
A great influence certainly comes from the 4-story building to the west (if north is oriented as shown), and I believe your self-design does not meet the requirements regarding the neighboring development.
I also don’t understand the access to your building; it can be done, but it costs, and what does it bring?
On this plot I could rather imagine an L-shaped building, which is placed as much as possible within the building envelope at the border to the 4-story building, and creates a west-shielded but open and bright interior area.
I also wouldn’t rely on possible planting on the western plot. If you want or have to have a rather conventional floor plan due to budget, then first plan for planting to avoid the “showcase” feeling in house and garden. Experienced expertise is helpful here as well.

Regards
WD

Hello,

I believe the comments about the upper floor have brought up a good idea. Now a window also fits into the dressing room and is simultaneously centered on the facade.
I have not given up on the shower on the ground floor yet. I mainly see a logistical advantage in it when four people plus guests need to go through the bathroom early in the morning.
We would either have the staircase made of steel and then clad it with wood or made of concrete and then clad it with wood. We would like to accommodate the wardrobe underneath.
Something in this style:

After we stated our budget, the architect planned a house with two full floors and thereby exceeded the budget.
Hence now the approach with 1.5 floors. Here we should at least save on one ceiling, one staircase, one large window that should extend over the ground and upper floor, and some masonry.
When we signed the building applications, because we believed him that his cost estimates were very high, I think we accepted his planning services, didn't we?
We have now talked to him and he is doing the redesign without starting from scratch on the costs. That is why I will soon present him with this idea and then it is up to him to check whether it makes sense or whether he will come up with better ideas.

The idea with access to the house using the carport as a canopy and shed comes from the architect. The fact is that we need a shed next to the garage for garden tools, bicycles, etc. He said that this way we can kill two birds with one stone (shed and covered entrance) and it will definitely be cheaper than attaching a canopy to the insulated facade (special solution because of thermal bridge) and additionally building a shed. I also saw the advantage of being able to get from the car into the house with dry feet and to pack the car for vacation out of sight. Does this make more sense with the info?

The site plan is oriented north.
The western property only has a bit of lawn and the house recently also has balconies. An L-shaped house would certainly be nice but based on our current status with the same floor plan would be a whole lot more expensive. The fact that the house will be rather average also has something to do with our experience with costs and unusual ideas. The idea with the planting is good. Possibly a hedge and a tall tree a few meters in front of it.
There is also a somewhat larger residential building to the northeast. We will certainly have to consider something about planting there as well.

Attached again is an update of the floor plans. I have also drawn in the chimney and the direction of the staircase.

Best regards,
LiquidSky

So about your shed:

That is all comprehensible, but I doubt whether it is cheaper. But you do need a quote from the shell builder. In any case, I would place the equipment extension at the same height as the house. Otherwise, there are too many corners for me. It then looks like a fail attempt at style. Maybe the garage can be treated the same way? So that the canopy starts right at the garage and the ending of everything aligns. ;)

Regarding the shower on the ground floor. Put yourself in the situation of showering there with everything that comes before and after... You end up bumping into everything because the space isn’t enough. Either make more space here (at the expense of the technical room) or leave it out.
We have a shower in the guest WC (with 5 people) and no one uses it for the above reason. In the new house, we really wanted a shower in the utility room because my husband would have used it daily after jogging, but we ended up scrapping it. The space should rather be assigned to the hallway that 5 people use (and not just 1)! :)

By the way, your WC has no window. I find that bad in a new build. Likewise, the corridor in the technical room can’t be used at all.
Try putting the WC lengthwise next to the kitchen. Then put the technical room between the WC and the entrance. Maybe you’ll have more room then.

I like the upper floor better but one child has no window there.
And I don’t like the bathroom layout at all. Something else has to be done.
Can’t the bathroom window be moved somewhat away from the wall?
How is it with the slant there?

milkie :)

Hi,

yes, actually we wanted the garage and the rest to be in one line. But the building window of the house is three meters 'longer' than that of the garage. We had already considered moving the house forward. But that would bring us closer to the neighbor’s garage, and honestly, the garden on that side is more valuable to me than the garden (north side) behind it. Or as a friend said, do you really want to align the position of the house with the building window of the garage? A request to set the garage back a bit outside the building window was categorically rejected because it is not a hardship case. I will refrain from further comments on that.

I left the shower out for now. But you don’t really gain that much space. If the bathroom moves to the kitchen wall, it becomes quite a narrow room. But it has a window, which also bothers me in the other variant. I would also prefer a window. I don’t find the narrow space in the technical room that bad, as long as things like the control cabinet and water meter fit on the wall. But I might be wrong about that.

I had forgotten to draw the window in the child’s room. I would put a window on the straight wall in all rooms. Also because I find skylights in rooms where you want to sleep unfavorable. In the bathroom, on the other hand, I would plan for one or two skylights. We have to build a 40 to 45-degree gable roof and are currently planning with a 1.50m knee wall. So in most cases, there is room to have a tub etc. there. I played around with the bathroom on the upper floor a bit. I deliberately painted the tub in two variants. I just don’t have a feel for where the 2m line comes. The idea in the planning was roughly that someone can sit on the toilet while someone else can wash their hands without immediately looking each other in the eye. But maybe that will be irrelevant anyway with the second bathroom on the ground floor.

That’s it from me for today.

Best regards, LiquidSky

*ahem*:rolleyes:
Just from memory: You have a great building plot and don’t know what to do with it.
Everyone here advises you - directly or indirectly - to hire a professional.
I can’t really follow the part about the architect... still, you fixate on a standard expandable floor plan... and you worry about your annual vacation (how to pack it most inconspicuously) and about eye contact in the bathroom with your family members.

Take your friend’s advice and don’t plan along the garage wall!!

By the way, a two-story house is cheaper than a one-and-a-half-story house!

If I’ve mixed up the threads now, then sorry :rolleyes:

#22 just read now.... I find the pictures unsuccessful. You can already see the layman's planning framework... and that usually can't get better. Contrary to milkie, I think: even in a shower toilet there is room for clothes/changing, that can work. But the utility room design is not successful... also, there are far too many doors in this shed or outdoor area...