New construction planned - what is the most sensible way to proceed?

  • Erstellt am 2023-09-28 09:02:23

Nida35a

2023-09-28 09:43:53
  • #1
No, you state a budget limit for the house. On top of that, there are another 100-200K€ for incidental costs, kitchen, furniture, fence system, landscaping, etc. If you mention your total budget, the architect thinks it is only for the house and plans a castle in the clouds.
 

WilderSueden

2023-09-28 09:50:16
  • #2
Very concrete ideas in the sense of self-drawn floor plans are also bad. The budget for the house (+ foundation/slab/basement and earthworks) should definitely be communicated from the outset. Not only to the architect. Also with prefabricated houses, the catalog price and the first offer usually differ significantly. Personally, after building with a general contractor, next time I would build with an architect and separate contracts. The background is the conflict of interest in construction management as well as the possibility with separate contracts to go more into detail regarding which specific execution is chosen. To be fair, one must also say that I now know significantly more than three years ago ;)
 

ypg

2023-09-28 10:40:37
  • #3
What about? Basically, very specific ideas are poison for building a house. You commit yourself too much, many things no longer fit in the calculation. You patch your unaffordable wishes into a house that is too small or a standard house until nothing fits anymore. My tip: explore budget and plot, calculate additional building costs, have a bank discussion, and then calculate how much living space is affordable.
 

Häuslebauer22

2023-09-28 12:52:31
  • #4


Specific ideas related to open kitchens, number of rooms, no balconies, no bay windows, no basement.
 

11ant

2023-09-28 12:52:52
  • #5

First of all, you should create two threads here (and link them in this thread), namely one in the floor plan planning section that starts with the completed questionnaire and please not too narrowly cropped excerpts from the land registry extract and development plan. Caution – you may mention the development plan here, but not link to it!

Therefore, I can unfortunately only recommend you to look up (preferably including the quotation marks) "Ein Hausbau-Fahrplan, auch für Sie: das Phasenmodell der HOAI!" (on Bauen jetzt). This gives you an insight into reading the structure of the fee structure for architects (which you do not have to apply) as a workflow plan for your planning process. There is also a construction terminology dictionary and, for example, my stone mantra, as well as an explanation of why "model houses lie."

Model home parks and prefab house exhibitions have, on the one hand, the "design flaw" that almost only "prefab" houses (and those mostly from timber frame panel suppliers) are there. On the other hand, you will quickly fall victim to sales talkers there who want to eliminate your openness to both construction methods (and have learned this quite well, even if little else). Visit such parks – but definitely only after the talks with your architect!
In these exhibitions, you will learn a lot – but only things designed to convince you of the offers there. It is best to go there when you have already discussed the house in its basic form with the architect and merely collect ideas for fittings. The ideal time to visit such exhibitions is the "dough resting phase" (which you can find explained at the aforementioned place). Here in the forum, the search function with the keywords "Fahrplan"/"Vorgehensweise" and "Gerddieter" will lead you to a number of posts in which I explain planning procedures and the topic of architect selection.

You best discuss budget questions openly here in the forum (but be careful: there is a stiff breeze in this category!) and keep in mind with any kind of house providers that they want to channel your budget into their coffers down to the last drop. Also, you must note that, for example, the fitted kitchen is not among the items included in the construction loan. You already got a bit of a feel for incidental costs when buying the plot, and it will continue that way.

The most important thing with the architect is that you hire one yourself and pay transparently. He is NOT more expensive than the one "included" in the price by the builder but works differently and above all: in the construction management, is partisan for you. You commission the architect first for "Module A" and then, with the result of the preliminary design planning, make an orientation inquiry to a total of four to five timber and stone builders – you can also partly do this during visits to the model home centers. Based on the feedback, you then decide which construction method is more favorable in your case and commission the architect derived from that for the entire "Module B" or only performance phase 3. But that is actually already a duplication of what you can read in the posts under the aforementioned keywords. Have fun!

P.S.: one more word about the energy standard and special subsidies for granny flats: build the house for yourselves and according to today’s legal standard. The subsidies for tomorrow’s standards, to put it briefly, only pay off for those privately insured, and playing landlord with the batch size "one housing unit" is economically nonsense. Likewise, no one builds a retirement home now if you are under 40.
 

11ant

2023-09-28 13:00:03
  • #6
Exactly. When going to the architect - even if you have already drawn your own designs - just bring a list of rooms, requirements, and wishes. You will find enlightenment on the basement with the keyword "11ant Kellerregel" - here and at a well-known place ;-)
 

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