New construction 2025/26 in BW - feasible with 950k all-in?

I simply believe that the outward appearance today (especially in new housing developments) is much more important than before. People prefer to save on the basement in order to then buy golden faucets (exaggeratedly speaking). That's why - usually less is saved on the flooring now.

I partially agree with you. If a basement were given for free, many would go for it. But there are also those who reject having a basement. Because for many it is not important at all, rather the opposite, it is more of a nuisance. You mentioned a tool room, but very few actually want that. My grandfather was a carpenter and had a vegetable garden with a huge shed where his workshop was. But he also had a basement that basically belonged to my grandmother with preserves jars and a mangle room. It would have been unthinkable for him to operate his assembly and planing bench as well as circular saw in the basement – the professional equipment as well as the finished products would not have fit in or out of the basement at all. But it is what it is: very few still do preserving, mangling is no longer done either. Laundry drying is done by a machine. Instead of collecting old things, people now prefer to collect files in the cloud, and when checking the heating or controlled residential ventilation, you don't necessarily want to have to go to another floor if there's an easier way. You also no longer have to store coal. Nowadays, building is optimized for space and modern, and the fact is that most can and want to save a lot on a basement. For a fraction of the money, you then have some nice things built into the house that you use several times a day. And even if you don't care about the appearance, you know that with things that have acceptance in society, you are allowed to belong.

410 sqm ... Land prices in our new development area are unfortunately very, very high :(

Very, very expensive? Here the m2 costs between 1,400-1,800 euros / m2 :(

Very very expensive? Here, the m2 costs between 1,400-1,800 euros / m2 :(

And here 30-55€ It is really fascinating how different it is (and no, we are not in East Germany, as has been suspected several times)

I partly agree with you. If there was a cellar for free, many would take it. But there are also those who reject a cellar. Because it is simply not important to many, rather the opposite, it's disturbing. You mentioned a tool room, which very few want. My grandpa was a carpenter and had a vegetable garden with a huge shed where his workshop was. But he also had a cellar, which basically belonged to my grandma with canning jars and a mangle room. It would have been unthinkable for him to operate his assembly and planing bench as well as circular saw in the cellar – the professional equipment as well as the end products would not have fit in or out of the cellar at all.
But it is what it is: Very few still do canning, and mangling is no longer done. A machine dries the laundry. Instead of collecting old things, people prefer to collect files in the cloud, and when checking the heating or controlled residential ventilation, one does not necessarily want to go to another floor when it can be done more easily. You don’t need to store coal anymore. Nowadays, people build space-optimized and modern, and the fact is that most can and want to save a lot on a cellar.
For a fraction of the money, they then have a lot of nice things built into the house that they can enjoy several times a day. And even if you don’t care about the appearance, you know that with things that have acceptance in society, you belong.

I actually see it differently, but certainly the cellar is simply a very large cost factor.
As you say: If there was a cellar for free, many would take it. I would even claim that everyone would take it.

Let’s be honest: In a 165m² house I have a cellar over 80m². For the 80m² you have to build the house roughly 40m² bigger per floor, which causes a lot of space to be lost elsewhere. Downside: The rooms then spread over 2 floors into many "smaller" rooms. You certainly won’t create a large hobby room with that (believe me – everyone here is jealous of that and I can understand it!).

Also, no one manages to pack their drying racks into the designated utility rooms because with 2 kids it’s simply way too much. So the stuff ends up somewhere in the hallway or living room. Next to the heating/controlled residential ventilation, something is then desperately tried to be placed or hung somewhere and space gets tight. There is a workshop only in the garage – but you don’t want to go there in low temperatures.

Then everyone stores the stuff in the attic – but no one wants to go there, so everything is thrown away or you no longer even know you own it (with 2-3 kids a lot accumulates).

What I want to say is: A cellar is an insanely large luxury to me that I absolutely wanted to afford. I would have given up so much for it. But I understand anyone who can’t/won’t build it, because financially it’s simply not feasible for many.

I would even claim that everyone would use it.

I’m telling you: needs are individual. I myself, for example, had a basement that I consciously declined and deliberately did not build in my self-built house.

For the 80m² you have to build the house significantly larger by 40m² per floor

No, precisely not. A basement is filler material the size of the house’s footprint. Whether one calls it an extra hobby room and others praise or envy it is irrelevant.

Besides, no one manages to fit their drying racks into the designated utility rooms because with two kids it’s simply way too much

I’m telling you: you don’t need it, that’s what a dryer is for. It may be that many dry conventionally, but nowadays you .don’t. need. it. Whoever swears by the tried-and-true method for drying laundry doesn’t have to come to me with indoor drying racks either. Not only because it could cause mold in the house. A basement is simply no longer contemporary. Not only because of the costs, but also in usage. Whoever has it and loves it can be happy with it, as you are. But the arguments are simply not very convincing.

I’m telling you: needs are individual. I myself, for example, had a basement that I consciously rejected and deliberately did not build in my self-built house.

No, exactly not. A basement is filler material in the size of the house’s footprint. Whether someone then calls it an extra hobby room and others praise or envy it is irrelevant.

I’m telling you: you don’t need it, there’s a dryer for that. It may be true that many dry conventionally, but you .don’t. need. it nowadays.
Anyone who swears by the old-fashioned method for their laundry doesn’t have to come at me with an indoor drying rack. Not just because there could be mold in the house.

A basement is simply no longer up-to-date. Not just because of the costs, but also in use.

Whoever has it and loves it can be happy with it for all I care, as you are. But the arguments are simply not very understandable.

1. As I said - my argument is understandable. I lose area all around the house and distribute it into 2 floors. The “filler material” is simply much better usable space-wise.

2. The dryer topic is wild… I could now give you 1000 arguments why it’s not sensible to throw EVERYTHING in the dryer. Besides, I don’t know of a single household in my entire vicinity that doesn’t hang laundry conventionally inside or outside the house to dry.

As I said - not up-to-date in use simply doesn’t apply to me. Regarding the costs - yes, as I said, I agree with you.

But if someone buys me a Porsche, I’ll take it too. Maybe I wouldn’t pay for it myself. It’s a pretty similar example for me.

I don’t want to “show off” or anything now. But let’s be honest: who wouldn’t take the basement as a gift (except you)?