Make a plan for old building insulation - How to proceed?

  • Erstellt am 2022-08-30 10:30:12

Adam2112

2022-12-23 21:36:25
  • #1
En1745 is for a composite wall. And 0.09 for a wall is Passive House.
 

KarstenausNRW

2022-12-23 22:28:58
  • #2
I thought the 1745 addresses the topic "Masonry and masonry products - Methods for determining thermal insulation calculation values" So the thermal conductivity for the product was determined according to EN 1745:2004. Nothing more and nothing less. Thermal conductivity is also stated in the line in the document. And this was gladly determined according to EN. No composite wall. Please remain professional.
 

parcus

2022-12-23 23:48:56
  • #3
As far as the EP is concerned, I can only recommend having an individually BAFA-funded renovation roadmap created. This clearly shows which component has which losses and where to most effectively counteract. The energy consultant must also substantiate this with the costs.

To @ Fake news: The Wonder Coat CE is completely irrelevant because it is untested and legally only describes manufacturer information for the trade of an imported product. The thermal conductivity group is determined according to DIN 4108-4:2013-02 and DIN EN 13162 to 13171. Only these values may be used by an energy consultant and must be the basis for the CE. A good example here is imported windows with CE, which may be traded here but may not be installed according to the state building code. A topic I have encountered several times during KfW or BAFA acceptance inspections in construction supervision. Coats, i.e., coatings, are not insulation materials and therefore cannot have a WLG. Even if someone abroad thought otherwise, the coat would still have to be applied centimeters thick, whereby vapor diffusion would then be the next issue. By the way, this is also a mandatory specification for calculating moisture protection verification, well, and again according to DIN 4108, after all, we live in Germany.

The fact that the specification is incorrect can already be seen from the fact that according to DIN there cannot be a smaller value than 0.001 W/(m·K).

Bad luck[B]
 

Adam2112

2022-12-24 00:35:50
  • #4
There is no standard for the product; those who do not use it are the ones who lost out. Diffusion is stated in the CE. Look first, then talk. Either the DIN must be updated or applicable EU law must be observed. Another one who has breakfasted on norms but has no idea of the subject. Is there anyone here who dares to use their own mind? Thinking is like reading norms, just more intense.
 

Cronos86

2022-12-24 08:15:50
  • #5
Oh Adam, are you still not giving up? This forum is clearly the wrong place to sell your revolutionary remedy.

Unfortunately, you are the only one here behaving completely unscientifically. We would like to believe it, but you cannot convincingly explain to us why the product delivers what you promise (the other manufacturer's specifications differ from yours: Lambda 0.09-0.034).

We are supposed to just believe that it works and that you are not trying to cheat.
If you really want to sell your product, then you have to manage to convince the skeptics.
The product has microspheres with "vacuum," but even those have a shell. The shell is the weak point; they touch each other and form a thermal bridge. The acrylic resin is also not a miracle cure. So how is it that in combination something unprecedented and unimaginable suddenly emerges?

May I ask what you studied?
 

Adam2112

2022-12-24 09:38:04
  • #6

I am not trying to sell anything here. As you correctly recognized, this is the wrong place for that. I would only welcome if more people were convinced by it. The properties are indeed incredible. You can only be convinced of it live. But I consider it Sisyphean work to send everyone a coated sheet now so they can put it on the stove. That’s what the videos are for. Those who then get hung up on formatting or some formalities... The numbers that some marketing agencies printed in the brochures are outside my area. They’ve all already been called out. Will be changed. But once Jean confirms the accuracy of the data, that will be off the table too. It’s a new product; anyone who has ever brought something to market knows this process and the constant correcting and adjusting. I will only discuss this with someone who has done something like that before.

I find it highly impressive how defensive everyone here behaves, and that 10 EUR apparently is still too much to try something out. I regularly spend huge sums to try things out, on a whim. Apparently, few are made like that.

They try it, and are happy about the results.

You have the information; what you ultimately do NOW is your business.

In a few years, this will have displaced all insulation materials. The numbers are rising exponentially and word of mouth among builders and similar players has meanwhile started. Then you will stand at my door anyway because I am involved with PSC and contribute to the ongoing development.
Many global players have already recognized the possibilities and are using them or cooperating. But no one here believes that. I already knew that, but still hoped.

So…

Merry Christmas and a pleasant end of the year to all who actively participate here.

I am still here and will continue to contribute.
 

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