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2017-12-07 12:42:02
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SweetHome3D is certainly a good start, but eventually, you will hit its limits. The operation is so-so, but you can learn it. The rendering engine is okay, but implemented so terribly (snail slow) that it eventually stops being fun. For me, the models eventually became too large and the work sluggish. But you can get quite far with it, just don’t expect photorealism.
I eventually ended up with cadvilla professional. It is a CAD program. It has a steep learning curve and a somewhat different philosophy than the "painting program" SweetHome3D. If you are willing to invest a lot of time, you really get usable results. For furnishing, you can use various 3d object formats, including SketchUp. Additionally, it offers the possibility to import AutoCAD files to use them for planning. That means if you ever have an architect, you can relatively quickly and easily use the dimensioned construction plans from them, which is very practical. There are plenty of tutorials for learning it. Cost is about 130€.
SketchUp is actually a 3D modeler, with which, after some getting used to, you can get really far. It runs most smoothly and is really powerful. With the free Twilight rendering plugin, you basically get photorealistic renderings. But especially if you aim for photorealism, you will have to invest a lot of time.
I ended up with Cadvilla and also make renderings for my wife with it so she can imagine details. We currently also use it for planning/positioning the sockets and ventilation valves. It is helpful for us.
I once also crafted a 3D model out of foam boards myself. However, I had the first draft/construction plans from the architect for this. If you have nothing yet and difficulty imagining in 3D, I consider that path the most difficult.
One more thing about the architect. Five figures for LPH 0 and 1 seems exaggerated to me. They usually bill according to HOAI, meaning you would calculate somewhere around 10% of their fee for the first two service phases (basic evaluation and preliminary design including cost estimate), so roughly about 1% of what you want to spend on the construction project, including incidental building costs, excluding land. For 400,000 €, that would be about 4,000€ – very, very roughly. Actually, it is calculated from the eligible construction costs, but as a rough guide, that fits.
Our architectural office made (in the end three) drafts for us at a fixed price of 1,500€ (including cost estimation) and charged that in case of commissioning. We found that fair....
Without some 3D imagination, designing on the computer can be difficult anyway. The programs can’t magic either [emoji6]
I would probably start with SweetHome3D to see if you really get along with the basic design of 3D buildings with a 2D program or if it is suitable. It costs nothing anyway. I would hold off on investing in more expensive architectural software at first...
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I eventually ended up with cadvilla professional. It is a CAD program. It has a steep learning curve and a somewhat different philosophy than the "painting program" SweetHome3D. If you are willing to invest a lot of time, you really get usable results. For furnishing, you can use various 3d object formats, including SketchUp. Additionally, it offers the possibility to import AutoCAD files to use them for planning. That means if you ever have an architect, you can relatively quickly and easily use the dimensioned construction plans from them, which is very practical. There are plenty of tutorials for learning it. Cost is about 130€.
SketchUp is actually a 3D modeler, with which, after some getting used to, you can get really far. It runs most smoothly and is really powerful. With the free Twilight rendering plugin, you basically get photorealistic renderings. But especially if you aim for photorealism, you will have to invest a lot of time.
I ended up with Cadvilla and also make renderings for my wife with it so she can imagine details. We currently also use it for planning/positioning the sockets and ventilation valves. It is helpful for us.
I once also crafted a 3D model out of foam boards myself. However, I had the first draft/construction plans from the architect for this. If you have nothing yet and difficulty imagining in 3D, I consider that path the most difficult.
One more thing about the architect. Five figures for LPH 0 and 1 seems exaggerated to me. They usually bill according to HOAI, meaning you would calculate somewhere around 10% of their fee for the first two service phases (basic evaluation and preliminary design including cost estimate), so roughly about 1% of what you want to spend on the construction project, including incidental building costs, excluding land. For 400,000 €, that would be about 4,000€ – very, very roughly. Actually, it is calculated from the eligible construction costs, but as a rough guide, that fits.
Our architectural office made (in the end three) drafts for us at a fixed price of 1,500€ (including cost estimation) and charged that in case of commissioning. We found that fair....
Without some 3D imagination, designing on the computer can be difficult anyway. The programs can’t magic either [emoji6]
I would probably start with SweetHome3D to see if you really get along with the basic design of 3D buildings with a 2D program or if it is suitable. It costs nothing anyway. I would hold off on investing in more expensive architectural software at first...
(Sent from on the go)