Looking for a photorealistic 3D house planner program

  • Erstellt am 2017-12-07 00:22:35

ypg

2017-12-09 00:18:38
  • #1
Well, what more could you want? Can you now stroll or fly there with the same quality? Or are you then back in the "immature" 3D mode? [emoji4]
 

ruppsn

2017-12-09 00:27:54
  • #2
If you mean me [emoji6] In Cadvilla and SweetHome3D not really, the walkthrough looks a bit more purist there, though not quite as 90s as in your screenshot [emoji23][emoji6] In Cadvilla, however, light and shadow (sunlight through the window) are at least pre-rendered and are also present during the walkthrough. Additionally, the models are already sufficiently detailed during the walkthrough. What is missing are bump maps, reflections, caustics, multi-path propagation while walking through. What is really cool, though, is that the lighting is "active" while walking through and already in the design, i.e., you already get a pretty good impression of how the light will look when positioning the lights. Really saves a lot of time. In Sketchup (however, "pro") pre-rendering is done, and during the walkthrough you have almost the same quality as in the stills thanks to real-time ray tracing. What more could you want? [emoji6] Me, nothing, but with the OP I'm not so sure [emoji4]
 

ruppsn

2017-12-09 00:31:51
  • #3
Brief addition: the Cadvilla stills took about 5-8 minutes. SweetHome3D a tedious 30 minutes - but I already said that the implementation is not particularly performant.

Whether entering the latitude and longitude, as well as the time, in Cadvilla then reflects the correct lighting conditions, I can only say in 10 months [emoji6]
 

Mihoe

2017-12-10 15:52:36
  • #4
Oh man … the written word always causes so many misunderstandings and then new ones again and it multiplies so it becomes exhausting. It’s a shame you can’t talk live with someone to correct things right away.

sorry for the mutilated address Why I don’t like Sketchup & Co. I already wrote. Because I’m talentless in the point of milling so much out of a lump that something comes out. For that, I have to have already designed the result in my head beforehand and that’s exactly my problem. As I already wrote, I am much better at being creative with finished elements – that is kits.

I have to clear up the second misunderstanding with you. I can afford 2,000 € and would also be crazy enough to put myself through that. I just don’t like rental models … I would never lease a car either. If I want something, I have the money or save for it, no matter how economical the rent might be. That’s just how I am. However, no one here has yet presented me with the desired “magic solution” for which I would then have to pay multiple thousands €. So once again, I am willing to spend an unreasonably large amount of money but want to be able to estimate beforehand if it is worth it by my standards. If I rent the program and then for some reason (health, caring for parents, job…) I’m unable to use it, I would have paid 2 grand for nothing. That, in my eyes, is irresponsible. But there is certainly a legitimate justification for this pricing policy. If I am a professional architect, I can deduct it from taxes and have several employees or partners who can continue working with it. And… what if years later I want to work on old designs again. Then I rent the program again. And what happens if the rental prices (exaggerating) double tomorrow… which is possible! No, I want to know a clear final price so I can manage that.

about the problem child: well spotted! At least half is correct. Control freak – yes, worrier – was once, no, decision-making – yes they are difficult, fear – I don’t know that word. By the way, I didn’t choose these traits myself. We are simply children of our parents and products of our environment. Aside from that, it is all the more understandable that, given my personality, I want to plan the house construction as detailed as possible. I think even people with a slight control obsession have that right. I don’t want to know how many builders, in a fit of euphoria or persuaded by a good salesman, end up regretting their decision in some or many points. After all, we are not talking about buying a drying rack here but the biggest project of life with far-reaching consequences.

Finally … that’s what I was looking for! Concrete statements: the program can do this and that and not that. Cadilla Prof Plus currently costs 219 € from the manufacturer by the way. If, I would take the version with Pro and Plus … although I don’t know if I would ever need the extra features. But if I do, I have them.

Regarding your designs: number 1 and 3 I like quite a lot – many thanks for that, with that I can finally make sense of it and understand what you mean when you talk about the programs. The designs are far from what I would call photorealistic but they would probably compensate well for my lack of imagination. Of course, I had already googled pictures of the programs and found Cadvilla quite good. With Sweet Home 3D, however, I had the impression I was looking at an ingame adventure game. I find your hints concerning the import possibility for further objects especially helpful.

By the way, here again lies the crux (and that will also lead to misunderstandings). I would rather spend more money, much more, and then have access to a huge object library. Back when I was still childless and enjoyed bachelor life, my parents were still healthy … yes, then I would have thrown myself with great enthusiasm into crafting the inventory. I also would gladly have tried a lot and researched on the internet. But after many years at the computer, I no longer have the desire or nerves for that. Many years ago, if you sought advice in forums, you often got it quickly. Now you mostly meet lunatics babbling nonsense sprinkled with a quote of the day. That tires me and costs valuable time.

Maybe you could please show me a sample of your designs so I can get an idea of what Arcon is capable of nowadays.

One more word about your admonitions that I should just inquire, get inspiration or be given inspiration (for example from ). An example why that sounds good and is surely true, but only in theory. Our daughter, like many children nowadays, has slightly crooked feet and knees. Over the years we have now been to two orthopedists and various medical supply stores about insoles. But they have so far caused no visible improvement. The last insoles were produced defectively so I had to complain. I was supposed to do that directly at the workshop of the medical supply store. There I asked about the possible uselessness of insoles and they were silent. By chance, another workshop master came in, heard what I said and presented me with “soft bedding insoles with pronation and sub-wedge.” I had never seen anything like that, and despite many internet searches, specialist talks with doctors, the medical supply store, etc., I hadn’t heard of it. Even Google barely knows it. In principle, these are studs like on football boots but glued from below onto the insole. As a result, it presses the foot unpleasantly and you try intuitively and actively to change the foot position to avoid the pain. If at all, you thus achieve an improvement in foot position, the experienced orthopedic master said. So, and now you come to me with “take care of it yourself” … How nice would it be if the planning programs (metaphorically) would have implemented these rare building elements so that I can discover and explore them. Do you understand me a bit better now???
 

kbt09

2017-12-10 20:24:11
  • #5
... sorry, that's a lot of talk about something.

For me, the 2000 euros were also not about whether direct purchase, leasing, renting, or something else, but about which budget you had roughly planned.

It is also helpful to consult a suitable professional who develops a building with you that then also meets planning law, structural, and other requirements, knowledge of which is usually acquired only through intensive study.
 

ruppsn

2017-12-10 20:59:33
  • #6

You said it


If I remember correctly, there is a 30-day (?) trial version. I would definitely try that first to avoid a bad purchase, even if you can afford it. You can invest 200 EUR better elsewhere than in software you can’t handle


No, from my point of view they are not photorealistic either, but for the purpose of developing an idea that is not too far from reality, they are quite suitable. No matter how photorealistic the rendering may be in the end, reality will always be different. So maybe it’s not such a bad thing to free yourself a bit from having everything, absolutely everything, controlled (through renderings) and planned in advance.

Don’t get me wrong, I recognize certain things in myself. I’m sure I visualize a lot more and spend more time on details than the average person, but they remain models that approximate reality. Just have courage for gaps or trust your planner. A good planner can often give you much better tips and information based on their experience and training than a self-made visualization. Especially regarding what works well (visually) and what doesn’t. And sometimes they really come up with good new ideas you wouldn’t have thought of yourself.
Maybe just take a look at projects from planners you might consider, try to get a feeling whether you like his/her “style”… then that would already be a good basis.


No offense, that was not a lecture but a recommendation, because I don’t think there is (and ever will be) what you are looking for. That’s why I thought it would at least help you to know where else you can get inspiration. It was a recommendation from personal experience – the best friend of my wife and me is among others Pinterest.

But if you exhaust all these sources of inspiration, what’s stopping you from having some conversations with architects?
Just tell them what your problem is, maybe they see it as their job to build models for you or create visualizations. And I already said something about HOAI, I just don’t see five-digit sums there. The initial meeting with an architect probably won’t cost anything anyway… just do what you yourself here in the forum lamented above: simply talk to different planners.

Otherwise, I can only agree with .
 

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