dertill
2023-10-23 12:29:16
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Basically, I believe the connection was better before than it is now.
No, "new" is better. Because this:
The heat pump should claim a heating circuit for itself. The photovoltaic system can support the heat pump well. Your fireplace can be useful for hot water generation. Running all three together through one buffer tank is generally difficult.
You can separate the heating circuit of the heat pump from the buffer tank as well. Then it just runs normally at first.
is nonsense.
The bivalent parallel heat generation with different flow temperatures and volume flows of the heat generators should ALWAYS be done together via a buffer tank, which simultaneously acts as a hydraulic separator. In manual or automated non-simultaneous operation, deviations are possible, but definitely not in this case. In doing so, all sources feed into the buffer and all sinks are supplied from the buffer.
The connections on the buffer should always be distributed from top to bottom over the entire buffer height in descending temperature order.
At the top the hottest, i.e., the supply line from the fireplace. This should always be around 70°C during operation. As can be seen in the drawing, the stove has a return temperature increase. The small circuit controlled by the 3-way valve there ensures that the water flowing through the fireplace is circulated in a loop until it reaches the minimum temperature and is only then "decoupled." This prevents the water in the stove from being too cold, so that no condensate forms on the heat exchanger at the stove and thus no rust occurs.
The line to the stove can also be the "old" one, which would better utilize the buffer volume.
The remaining connections also look good in terms of distribution by descending temperature.
Yes, we already had that last year. Then it bangs like crazy and it pumps cold water.
But when we turned it on last week, I throttled at 85 degrees and increased the pump flow rate so it wouldn’t happen anymore.
Automated stoves, such as pellet or gas boilers, have a switch that can be toggled and that shuts off when the target temperature is reached. The fireplace, however, contains fuel and the exhaust gases run through the heat exchanger. The fireplace cannot be switched off directly but is very sluggish.
At too high temperatures, the cold water injection starts, while simultaneously or immediately afterwards the overpressure valve triggers (that’s the "banging"), and the excess water goes into the drain. In this case, energy is lost into the drain, but that is intentional. This can be avoided if you only turn on the fireplace when heat output is guaranteed.
Your example shows very well why in a modern house with a heat pump, installing a water jacket in the chimney should be avoided as much as possible.
As a technically untrained layperson who has never worked with this, I would be cautious about it.
The question of course is how to get out of this situation easiest. To me, dismantling the water jacket sounds like the best solution and then properly adjusting the heating.
Dismantling is not necessary, just a careful approach as described above: only turn on the stove when there is demand.
Is it a room air-independent fireplace with air supply?
Much more important for the solution: what color is it? Red fireplaces tend to overheat more than green ones. Green color calms, especially as a spinach smoothie.
The problem is the buffer tank and not your . Mistakes were made here.
I am so against it when Mr. Drosten demands that only experts accredited beforehand by him/WHO/federal authority may comment on respective topics and everyone else gets silenced. Against this background, I welcome your interjection but would simply say: no.