Wood stove "Iron Dog I" .... who knows it?

  • Erstellt am 2021-05-22 08:32:39

berny

2021-05-23 10:51:18
  • #1
What you are looking for is probably called "Bullerjan". In my opinion, it looks cool, blasts an incredibly large amount of warm air into the room very quickly. I once experienced it at a customer's hunting lodge - I would have liked to have had it too; but didn't get permission from the boss ;).
 

manohara

2021-05-23 10:54:44
  • #2
I also like that one, but it is WAY too big. (13 kW in one of the models we mean) If it runs at a reasonable temperature, we'll have to open the windows ;) The boss won't go for that.
 

nordanney

2021-05-23 11:34:02
  • #3
1,270€ incl. shipping ;) No. They are just as open as any wood stove. There isn’t much to discuss. Pure cast iron stove = chimney and directly into the room. Stove with storage mass = chimney, room, and storage mass (which then releases heat again). An individual fireplace can also additionally generate warm air – for that there are ventilation openings in the cladding or warm air channels at the fireplace insert. That’s not correct. You fuel the fireplace differently. Without storage, much more disappears through the chimney. Negligible concerning how much heat a cast iron stove absorbs. Warm air fireplace! Has nothing to do with cozy fire. But extremely effective.
 

motorradsilke

2021-05-23 12:21:14
  • #4
I think that’s where your error in thinking lies. The fireclay stone stores the heat and still gives it off to the room even when no fire has been burning for a long time. Then nothing goes out the chimney anymore; that only happens when the fire is burning. At least, that was the case with us, that the stones were still somewhat warm the next morning. And accordingly, they were still releasing heat. Moreover, stone is a better heat store than metal anyway.
 

manohara

2021-05-23 12:26:03
  • #5
Both are equally open, exactly. While one releases the heat "immediately" into the living space, the other retains the heat longer INSIDE the fire chamber. From there, more naturally escapes outside in the same time. ... but I think we don't need to argue about that :) everyone gets the stove they deserve ;)
 

manohara

2021-05-23 21:46:13
  • #6
In search of IronDog users, I registered on several forums where I hoped to find someone. In one of these forums, a dealer just posted the following:

(I hope I am not violating any rules with the quote and hereby thank the author, whose name I will not mention)

an ERFA is a stove

1. The lining of the combustion chamber with cast iron plates, fireclay bricks, or vermiculite panels has no effect on the emission values of the ERFA. Any chimney inspection institute will confirm this to you.
2. The lining of the combustion chamber with these materials is not done to achieve heat storage. The lining is only done to protect the combustion chamber. If the ERFA is made of steel or cast iron, the combustion chamber must be protected against excessive temperatures. To prevent damage to the body of the ERFA.
Only in masonry tiled stoves are fireclay bricks used for heat storage. However, these are very thick fireclay bricks up to 15 cm thick.
In a wood stove or fireplace insert, fireclay bricks of this thickness are not used. Mostly between 15-30 mm thick.
3. Any manufacturer of an ERFA and any testing institute will confirm this to you.
4. For centuries ERFA manufacturers have used cast iron or fireclay bricks for this purpose. In the last 25 years more and more vermiculite panels have been used. Vermiculite does not store heat at all.


Whether the author has sound knowledge or not, I cannot judge, but that is my impression. It is interesting for me.

Elsewhere, the same author said that cast iron linings are no longer used because they last too long and no spare parts need to be purchased.
 

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