Full vinyl vs vinyl with HDF board

Hm, I see.

Although I have to say that the laminate floors I have had so far have not swollen at all. And since I also had them in the kitchen, there were occasionally a few drops spilled. I personally would not overestimate this factor too much. But it certainly plays a role in the decision-making process.

Scratches in laminate are, in my opinion, also difficult to achieve. It may be true that PVC is even more durable. However, this is also of secondary importance to me.

And what about PVC when it is installed as a floating floor with a click system? Aren’t the "joints" present there as well, like with laminate? Would then behave similarly in terms of moisture. (The click PVC often also has an additional layer of HDF(?)).

Thanks for the experience reports! (I am deliberately playing the "bad cop" or the laminate advocate here. Only in this way can I properly evaluate all the pros and cons for myself).

Hello Farilo, regarding your questions:

More resistant:
Overall, in my opinion, the V is more resistant because it has a wear layer. That means if I have medium and deep scratches, they stay within this transparent layer (0.2 - 0.7mm thick, depending on quality) and do not yet damage the decor.
With laminate, I don’t have a wear layer but only a synthetic resin coating. If I get such a scratch there, I already damage the decor itself. And that is visually noticeable.
Also, with falling objects, I will more likely get a dent with the V, and with laminate, chipping occurs more easily because the surface is extremely hard but inflexible.
The advantage of L is that it is more resistant to light scratches (also from claws) than V. Only V with very high-quality PU coating are equivalent here.

Easy to maintain:
With solid vinyl, the advantage is that I can also clean very wet. Also, the V on HDF can be wiped somewhat wetter than laminate.
I cannot treat L with care products, only with cleaners. All care products contain waxes, and they have no place on an L surface.
A V becomes more beautiful again through good maintenance, similar to a car.

More durable:
Precisely because it is more resistant and easier to maintain. After 10 years, the V will still look visually "newer" than laminate.

Quieter:
The full V is somewhat quieter than the V on HDF, but both are significantly quieter than L. Mainly due to the already mentioned elastic surface. Even with the best underlays, I cannot achieve good walking noise reduction with laminate. With good underlays, I only manage improvement in impact sound.
I hear the walking noise myself, my neighbor below hears the impact sound...

Price:
Vinyl is certainly more expensive than laminate. V starts at about €20-25 (in good quality), I can get laminate for €8-10.
Which advantages are worth how much to you is something to decide.
Vinyl is not a glued-on covering on a board!
These "coverings" (rolled goods) are CV (cushioned vinyls). Quite different from the vinyl we are talking about here.

Hi,

which vinyl flooring would be advisable for floating screed and underfloor heating.

Building description: "In the basement, a floating cement screed with impact sound insulation and thermal insulation according to the thermal protection certificate is installed. In the ground and upper floors, a floating cement screed with impact sound insulation and thermal insulation is installed. For a purchaser-installed floor construction, about 1 cm is available."

Short experience report on vinyl on HDF (Parador). About a year ago, I installed the Parador Basic Vinyl on HDF with a cork layer in the children's and bedrooms.

Looks good, is relatively warm underfoot (we previously had glued vinyl - noticeably colder) and quite quiet. No clattering like with laminate. Installed floating, of course, and without additional impact sound insulation in the new building, only a vapor barrier. Feels like glued and high-quality.

So far we are satisfied. It’s not quite as easy to install as the friendly sales guy makes it look in the video. The planks are relatively heavy - you notice that quite quickly in high summer. I couldn’t cut them with a laminate cutter; I had to use a circular saw.