Floor plans of a single-family house with a granny flat, please tips and feedback

2021-02-17 22:06:59

Hello 11ant. My pictures already show the existing old property that extends over the entire plot, which is to be divided. The old property is only to be demolished and rebuilt in such a way that two separate houses are created, as with many neighbors, with a shared middle section. This is also provided for in the development plan. The neighboring house opposite, to which the extension is to be attached, has no windows on the southwest side for this reason, since it was clear that an extension would eventually be built. In addition, there is a fire protection wall between the two existing houses (opposite each other) that is to remain. It would be wasteful not to use this wall for a room/extension. Boundary distances don’t help much if there is a house 3 meters away. Besides, the space in the middle is expressly desired. The immediate neighbor will also build/extend there, as can be seen in the previous picture (blue frame). If he does that, there will be 0 m boundary distance, but a continuous building substance with 2 houses.

2021-02-17 23:18:24

A basement with daylight on flat-level plots is only possible with a lot of effort. The light courts have to be bigger and the balcony on the upper floor has to go. I used to be in such an apartment more often; the light court was about 3 m deep and 5 m wide to get it somewhat bright. The basement will cost you at least 200k + earthworks + garden and living comfort upstairs. Do you get that much rent to cover the capital service and build reserves? Remember, you have to pay taxes. Build a nice single-family house without compromises for later. An entrance that welcomes you, a wardrobe, a staircase that does not go through the dirty area, laundry upstairs where it originates, a staircase that goes to the attic. You also have to invest money to change something. So why not do it in a way that fits at time X. You think of a caregiver, of living on one level. The ground floor does not accommodate living as a care-dependent person. Apart from the orientation of the rooms, I would not plan anything like that. Even the entrance reminds one of a rental apartment.

2021-02-17 23:45:58

I only write here very rarely because others know much more here, but this time I have to say something.
First of all, you have a decent budget. Why don’t you hire an architect?

For this really small plot, you have an extremely large number of wishes, question that. Why does the office have to be in the house? So that the woman can care for the children alongside her full-time job? Where does the club work now? Can’t it rent other rooms?

Then the whole thing is very unbalanced. Upstairs there is one room of 9 sqm, one 18 and the big one 35 sqm. And one child is supposed to get the 9, the other the 18 and you get the 35 sqm as a bedroom? Such a division makes no sense at all, as a child I would really hate being stuck in the tiny chamber. Am I supposed to play, study, chill with friends, sleep, have my clothes, books, school stuff etc, etc there? And the parents only get 35 sqm just to sleep? Seriously not. This has nothing to do with compromise or making the house flexible to use later; this is badly planned.

On the ground floor, the hallway is simply tight. It’s okay to want to have as little hallway as possible, but a little space to arrive, take off jackets and shoes and tidy up (times 4 people), put down bags and house keys, move around, is a must. The staircase is too short, that certainly won’t work. Where it leads into the living room, the hallway is no more than a meter wide. That’s not nice.
Then you have a sofa, which basically stands in front of the little living room corner because it doesn’t fit inside. You then look into this little corner at the TV. The window doesn’t open onto greenery but in front of it there is a hole, the light well. The same with the dining room window. And space for a few pieces of furniture basically isn’t there either.
The kitchen island doesn’t even have 60 cm in the plan. That’s a joke. That just won’t work.

The technical room will be about only 10 sqm so there will be more space for living areas. In the end you have to see if you can fit KNX, network cabinet, ventilation systems, battery storage, inverters etc into 10 sqm, or if significantly more space is needed.

And if it’s not enough? Then some room-tetris is played around – but then it won’t fit there anymore... This needs to be properly planned from the start.

These are just a few concrete things that are really bad. Others have already said a lot.

You can see from the floor plan that a layperson has stacked rooms onto and above each other who has no idea about spatial concepts and no spatial imagination either.

You want to spend a lot of money, get a professional involved!

2021-02-18 08:31:12

emotionally detach yourself from this "attempt" and leave it to a professional! The rent of the granny flat, which certainly costs 200k fully equipped, you first have to recoup, which is why I would completely do without it.

2021-02-18 08:41:55

I agree with Charli. I also don't like the rooms on the upper floor for the same reasons. You spend 700k on a house and the child gets a 9sqm room. Have you ever been in a 9sqm room? Yes, I know, it works, but not when the master bedroom is 35sqm!!! and you spend such a fortune. If I had your possibilities, I would plan two nice large children's rooms on the upper floor, a similarly sized master bedroom, a master bathroom, and a children's bathroom.

I find this option with the kitchen on the upper floor totally unnecessary, especially since you already have a granny flat. As a tip: My parents also have kitchen connections and a bathroom in the basement, both on the ground floor, and actually also kitchen connections on the upper floor. Neither has been used so far and now they are 70. MOREOVER/BUT: My room on the upper floor had the kitchen connections, but except that the caps were behind my wardrobe, I had a completely normal beautiful children's room. You have to plan so that it fits NOW. If additionally a line can be laid to cover a potential eventuality later, then you can do that. But don't plan only for eventualities!

The house entrance also looks expensive and impractical to me.

The only thing I see differently than the others is the light well. We also have a light trench right next to the terrace. A railing goes there and that's it. I don't understand the problem there. My parents have a light trench next to the terrace and several friends of ours do too.

You really are the best example of an architect. You can afford one and you want to build a pretty complicated house. A layman just can't do that.

2021-02-18 09:33:47

I am completely withdrawing the club because here the impression is created that it is about the adult education center, which is complete nonsense. It is simply a granny flat, and my wife is setting up her personal workplace/office in this granny flat. Is this better for you now? It is not an Obi where 100 customers come every hour, so we do not need any extra car parking spaces and almost no visitors come anyway. But if you ever have family visits with children and 3 cars are parked in front, of course, no one complains...

How many parking spaces are required according to the municipality / Section 34? The one employee from the club comes on foot? Planning 1 parking space for 2 residential units does not meet the demand. I had to designate 4 parking spaces for 2 residential units. I need those too.

Thanks. You are the only one finally contributing something. Regarding your post.
The existing house is 9x9 meters

Should one know that? There is nothing about it in your plans. Something like that belongs in the site plan.

and has a granny flat in the basement which is also rented out. My project is supposed to exactly mirror this house 1:1 with the change that a small extension is added in the middle as before. In the middle of the properties is a fire protection wall which of course remains. It is a great privacy screen for the opposite halves of the house.

I am looking for this wall in the middle of the plot.

Granny flat:
a.) The woman and her assistant are not strangers :) And if we rent to others, they are always strangers. We put whoever in the granny flat and not in our apartment on the ground/floor above.
b.) Do you have a good suggestion on how to get light into the granny flat and still be able to use some of it upstairs on the ground floor/terrace/garden?

A light well is not so bad. You even planned a fall protection. I have a light well right next to the terrace. See picture.

c.) One fixed parking space is required and planned. Another can be designated on the neighboring property (relative) or purchased from the municipality in the adjoining area.

If the municipality offers that, great. What does that cost? 10k per parking space? Is that really a good idea?

I will recalculate the stairs. Unfortunately, I did not find a quarter-turn staircase with dimensions in the templates here. The washing machine is planned in the basement bathroom or kitchen. If the basement is a home office (to everyone no longer club), then we actually don't need one, only if rented to someone who really lives there. The technical room will be about only 10 sqm so there is more space for living areas. In the end, you have to see whether KNX, network cabinet, ventilation systems, battery storage, converters, etc. can fit in 10 sqm or if significantly more is needed.

Such an outside staircase is an elaborate thing. My experience says, best to roof it.

2. A light well is actually nonsense, but how else do I get light down there?

See above. I combined the outside staircase with a light well. This light well was meant for the office. Today I prefer to sit in the living room with my laptop. In other words, an office does not belong in the basement. Alternatively, a light shaft with glass cover also works.

The second door to the office on the ground floor was actually intended to be functional. Private use door to the living room. Use in connection with the basement stairs is the other door. Here too I see that this is a bit too much. If later you want to use the granny flat yourself, the internal stairs from the ground floor to the basement are great. A sealed opening is enough for now, then of course only one door and optionally a door arch/opening.

Stairs are expensive, outside stairs very expensive. Many planning ideas belong there.

The second child gets one of the small rooms upstairs. The parents take the large one where the optional kitchen connections also are.

My bedroom is much smaller than the kids’ rooms.

A nice house would be great. The space is small with 320sqm and the requirements of the extension house, driveway, granny flat must be observed. This won't be a Ritz, that's clear. So far little input here.

You have had a hard time conveying your demands with the planning. A granny flat in the basement – who is going to rent that? You don't want such people in your own house. A good architect can make something of your ideas. DIY is not a good idea here. I don’t even want to start listing everything I don’t like. Start over. When the architect has his first ideas, feel free to come back here.

The retractable staircase to the attic is in the hallway upstairs, you do see it.

I don't feel like searching. A proper floor plan would surely show me that.

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