Floor plan of a single-family house, slight slope location, northwest orientation

  • Erstellt am 2025-05-23 18:30:43

ypg

2025-05-24 15:52:05
  • #1

You don’t understand anything that has to do with winking and innuendos either

It just doesn’t replace a storage room, but only has attic quality. We have exactly such a recess with almost identical heights, and when we take out the suitcases or look for something, we have to do counter-exercises afterwards because our backs hurt so much from walking crooked.
 

11ant

2025-05-24 16:13:06
  • #2
I will probably agree with that as soon as we know the associated attics of the ground floors from post #15. I didn’t read any criticism of the walls; nor did I make any – only that the planner "traveled abroad under orders" and left his client no information about which house manufacturer recommendation his wall thicknesses were associated with. You don’t hire an architect for such a communication failure. The Steinemantra does not, even with a wink, relate to whether walls are only sketched roughly rather than postulated as a doctoral thesis. That I interpret some words more bindingly than intended due to a disability is true, but has nothing to do with the specific situation. One might have suspected when reading that the sketchy representation of the walls violated the Steinemantra, but it does not. If you had meant the paper walls seriously, I would probably have "reproached" that – after all, quotation marks are still allowed here – but even that would not have been in opposition to or bypassed the Steinemantra.
 

kronos215

2025-05-24 16:30:28
  • #3
we were out today and I was on site at the property. It is indeed about 2m. But that shouldn't make much of a difference. Thank you very much for the effort, impressive what is possible. Also the second draft. Where would the staircase be placed? Bien-Zenker, correct. For completeness, I am attaching the ground floor and upper floor together in this post. If the floor plan is rotated 90 degrees to the left, it is noticeable that the ridge direction no longer corresponds to the development plan and would have to be changed. Also, the dormer facing the neighbor makes little sense and should be aligned at the top of the plan. As much as we like the ground floor, there is a lot of need for changes on the upper floor. By the way, the house is listed on various portals - and also at Bien-Zenker itself - for around €416,000 turnkey including the base slab. Could that be right? It seems too cheap to me. After all, it is 161m2 (= €2,500/sqm, Bien-Zenker itself speaks of €3,200+ /sqm). Apart from that, the company is not the issue here. We have also heard several times that Bien-Zenker is not attractive in terms of price for what is offered. Thank you very much for your feedback, did you comment on the original floor plan? Then it probably does not only get criticism. We also don’t find the ground floor bad; kitchen and living room should be arranged towards the garden at the top of the plan. However, this ground floor results in the upper floor with which we have a lot of difficulty.
 

kronos215

2025-05-24 16:38:02
  • #4
EVOLUTION 161 V2 for 416,000€ with master bathroom and KfW 40+ turnkey. But as a basis, surely every BT can manage that. Looking at the floor plan, it would probably be good if only the ground floor were rotated by 90 degrees and the upper floor remained fixed. Whether it needs a second bathroom upstairs is also questionable, maybe that would be the storage room again... the knee wall would also certainly be somewhat lower.
 

wiltshire

2025-05-24 17:20:47
  • #5
I also find the first floor successful, although I think a few small things differently than the designer: The standard wardrobes drawn in the bedroom with the attempt to build a "dressing room" are "nonsense" in this arrangement. With a carpenter-made variant, you can build a lot of storage space and include the slant (also above the bed if necessary). The area with the sloping roof can be made into a very cozy feature, e.g. with a very flat Togo corner sofa section (also available used in good quality) including a floor lamp for reading. A bit of artificial light is enough. The bathroom works. The study could give the child a bit more space. I would omit the roof window in the storage room. The roof window over the hallway is nice, but if there is going to be real light there, then properly and plan at least double, if not triple the glass area (expensive) and consider that it is somewhat tricky to clean (access). Alternatively, there are fantastic lamps that can bring light and life to this area. I am thinking of something like less'n'more Alien (very cool) or Bulbsquare (simulates roof windows). This not only saves some costs but also helps keep the house cool in summer and frees up more area for photovoltaics, which would be oriented in this direction.
 

11ant

2025-05-24 18:07:02
  • #6

Please also add the other attic floor to post #15.

That would unfortunately mean the design is to be forgotten, because the attic floor no longer works with a rotated roof, and rotating the ground floor and attic floor against each other – even if the staircase is quite central here – is also nonsense (apart from the fact that in doing so only the price dimension of the catalog model would remain, but the advantage of serial maturity would be lost).

The builder you mean is called general contractor. And no, they won’t manage it, at most something price-similar. But the more significant advantage of the catalog model, that the calculation is "verified" in the drawer, lies in the technical serial maturity of the model. And the team from company Y simply has no routine with the product of company X. Therefore, it is unfortunately neither accurate nor advisable to want to recreate a concrete floor plan and price fitting house "with a different letterhead." Different provider – different catalog, no cross-transfer works there.

More important: built exactly as in the catalog also in the showroom, so that one can walk through with a tape measure.

I would not put it that way. BZ is indeed price-attractive for its clientele, only their clientele is not comparable to you budget-sensitive – BZ builds for full-time dual earners, of whom at least one has a university degree and is entitled to a company car (not extravagant, a 3 Series / A4). Business administration nerd with gel-nail girl. Look at the brochures, they are very revealing for all manufacturers: the photo models usually correspond shockingly well with the customer avatar of the provider. The more similar they are to you and the middle eighty percent of your circle of friends, the more likely the manufacturer fits you (also price-wise). People who wear Polo and people who drive Polo have different income levels; for people who wear 1st hand Polo and those who wear 2nd hand Polo, this is even more pronounced.
 

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