Remember, you calculate 1 meter of movement space from the edge of the table. So if you want a 1x2 m table, you need a 3x4 m large template. It's an insane drum that has to be accommodated there.
I didn’t do that – but I modeled the chairs instead. That way you can also see whether you can still get around sensibly or not.
I think that’s great and certainly extremely helpful for you. Even if this effort ultimately only prevented 3 or 4 bottlenecks or critical points, it was worth it. By drawing and pushing back and forth, it becomes more tangible for me at least. I better not tell you what we've arranged here to simulate things for us with the possibilities available at the time.
So both the input from the forum here and some from elsewhere have already adjusted quite a bit. The painting has solidified it.
Exactly, that is such a nice example, and if a child “regrets” their decision later, they have also learned something and it can be corrected again. If you get your children to plan their room alone in all the possible details available to them, that’s already a gain, unless there are cost busters involved.
Within the scope available to them, the kids know what kind of costs the whole project entails. We always also go through the costs when it comes to wishes.
Of course they have relatively little understanding for the really large sums – but it’s nice to see what a difference just 2 years of life make, and they’re not completely clueless either.
Exactly – and I understand that too. But precisely because of that, you should at least roughly know the total costs of such a position and what equipment is required for it, so as not to regret it later. Depending on the cardinal direction, window size and type, shading, insulation, etc., it can become a real hotbox and affect the entire house. So if it’s not comfortably affordable, I would just cut it and free up money that’s needed elsewhere; meaning: definitely don’t do "half" things with such a strong impact on the building and living climate. Many things can be corrected later if you were wrong, but hardly this.
At the moment I’m waiting to see what the company comes back with regarding the requested adjustments. Then I’ll see further. The cardinal direction is south, not buildable around, so yes, plenty of sun. That’s why I’m (appropriately) planning shading.
What does it look like in terms of type and costs?
We don’t have KNX, we press switches in an old-fashioned way when needed.
This part of the costs isn’t really that significant.
Basically, as always, you first need the appropriate shading everywhere. Then the motors (and not those with the radio option…).
And cables – here the difference begins. Classically, you just run the cables over the shutter switches and to the roller blind motor. In KNX, you have the KNX bus at the location of the switch (a 4-wire cable, mostly green) and KNX-capable “switches.” Here, you don’t necessarily put two traditional switches beside the blinds (you can, but where’s the advantage?) but rather have a central place in the room where the entire room control is housed. Then there are other things, such as a weather station for wind/sun, sensors for temperature, humidity, and whatever else.
Then the cables go directly to the motors, out of the distribution board. And inside the board sit the actuators, and depending on what you set, they let the shading go up, down, or anywhere in between. Whether it’s a button press by a person or “too much sun, darken” automatically is just parameterizing work. Exactly like something like “If the terrace door is open, then the blind doesn’t close.”
A little more cost for the actuators in the distribution board, a little more cables. Programming work for the function. Depending on how much of that you can do yourself, it's somewhat more expensive than classic – but not so much that it matters over the lifespan. (An 8-fold roller shutter actuator costs about €280.) Compared to what you can automate with it.
What’s more interesting here is what you wrote before – what it means for heating or rather cooling costs and resulting heat effects.