Floor plan of a 1.5-story house with a captain's gable on nearly 200m²

Thanks for the food for thought.

We actually already had your suggestion and an alternative once before, there was even a first sketch draft - back then we included the attic (parents + office all the way up, kids on the upper floor, ground floor as suggested and with HTR and therefore no basement.) After many discussions and visualizations, we discarded it again.

Unfortunately, your assumptions are not entirely correct. But I understand your basic argument. In fact, "Pinterest" has very little to do with our approach. Of course, we also received the list of "Pinterest wishes" commonly suggested when building and then discarded it again.

And that brings us to the topic: what kind of house do you actually want? Like Pinterest, which mostly shows staged rooms (all advertising for living better or Ikea) or for yourself as an individual family?!

Well, and here I can simply say clearly for us that we were not inspired by an Ikea catalog, but rather spent a long time reflecting on our current life. For example, a piano clearly belongs in the living-dining area for us. Retreat spaces should be the individual rooms – there are plenty of them, one for each person. This is how we live and love it today – so why should we change that now? We love our book collection, after all we have hundreds of them. They should be visible.

Many of the tips and hints from the pages here we have considered and also implemented directly. Your list here, for example, very good advice.

That our basic concept doesn’t fit many is okay, it has to fit us. Example with the stairs: A staircase in the entrance area is an absolute no-go for us – yet 90% of all floor plans are like that and many like it. Or the open entrance area from which you can basically see the entire ground floor – no thanks! Floor-to-ceiling windows: we don’t have them, find them impractical and not nice.

Is there an euphoria to finally implement the big dream or does one just want to take their mini-rooms and what they know, their rented average, 500 km to the necessary move?

I just don’t understand why that should exclude each other. Why shouldn’t I simply implement what brings me joy today optimized. And of course, you’re euphoric about it, maybe I’m just not so good at conveying that.

As I said, I understand where all this comes from – but so far not a single point in this thread has convinced me that something about the basic layout has to be changed, and not because of "I don’t know it, I don’t want it" but because these points have already been discussed with us and we came to a different conclusion. Of course, we have changed parts.

We will now approach the facade image again. I will then post it here again.

That our basic concept does not suit many is okay,

However, given the twin-like similarity between the original design in the opening post and the further versions up to the most recent one, it is extremely hard to believe that only a basic concept is to blame, and the suspicion of a "tracing planner" is decidedly more plausible (no offense intended, the feeling is just simply unavoidable).

*dusts off* *puffs*

there. meanwhile we have gotten another architect by our side, now things are moving forward. We have received a lot of input.

Here was the last iteration that was presented
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-1-5-geschossiges-haus-mit-kapitaensgiebel-auf-knapp-200m.39863/post-541921

we are not yet 100% done with the last draft, fine-tuning is missing, especially window size and positions are not final yet, but I feel mentally ready to also present the development here. Basically it still looks very similar to the initial and middle drawings, but feels better. Above all, now much more flexibility is included.


Ground floor:
- Changes: the gable is now wider by 56 cm and thus symmetrical again: reasons are a bigger living room, children’s room in the upper floor can be arranged more flexibly
- Home office no longer faces the street. This compromise hurts the most
- Guest bathroom moves to the front. This compromise is also not so great, but I believe 2 meters from the front door is enough to not walk through the dirt when going to the bathroom
- no corridor walls
- storage/pantry
- since the basement is now fully insulated, the basement door moves downwards.
- the basement gets a basement entrance to serve as a "real" dirt sluice (plan still missing)
- sliding door above on the upper floor


naked plan



It doesn’t always have to be fixed walls, we have learned that now. For example, you could spatially and acoustically separate the entrance area with ceiling-high steel/wood/glass/textile elements. Sliding door on the upper floor by the stairs can be closed if it gets louder downstairs in the living room. Or you use a textile element somewhere in between. The 2 office rooms could also be connected again if you want to do that sometime...




Upper floor:
Something has changed here too, not much but a bit. We have a bit more leeway due to the wider gable. The shower in the children’s bathroom is now suggested this way. We don’t yet know if it will really come.





Alternatively, which possibly allows more storage space in the long term



As said, it’s not final yet, we have another appointment where everything will be finalized. But I think we are finally on a better path.

But I think we are finally on a better path.

Let's hope for the best, dear reader ;-)

Gable is now 56 cm wider

Don't forget: those who don't think in octameters get botched pockets ...

Don't forget: those who don't think in octameters get botched bags ...

Funny that the term only appears in this forum here :) Do you have a copyright on that?

Regarding the dimensions: We are building timber studs - isn't the measurement for bricks irrelevant there?

Sorry, but to me the ground floor looks like the planner gave up in despair. The living-dining area is catastrophically difficult to furnish. Somehow everything is open but without flow and connection. And the fireplace in the middle is extremely confusing. Edit, the fireplace is a freestanding pantry? Oh man,... the whole thing looks like a child trying to rebuild the Firm Sam headquarters with Lego.