Financing comparison: past vs. today

  • Erstellt am 2022-05-05 15:29:02

Tolentino

2022-06-21 10:19:20
  • #1

I think you had a different part in mind when you quoted it.
Regarding the quote: I mean absolute numbers as exemptions and assessment limits. Actually also absolute administrative and fines. Everything must be switched to relative values. In my opinion.

Regarding your comment: Yes, of course it is already taxed. It would just be taxed additionally so that the inheritance tax does not have to be paid all at once. Whoever wants to and can should pay it all at once and get a discount, similar to BAföG.



It has nothing to do with envy. See answer from further below.



I can save myself the sermon I already formulated in my head. That's exactly what I mean!


Why? Are only working people valuable to you?


I claim that everyone who remains in Hartz IV long-term has some serious problem. Nobody really voluntarily endures it longer than a year, whether they are lazy or not. This usually has to do with physical, mental, or social illness/developmental disorder.


I would basically agree with that, but I also claim that most would do this if they were allowed. The problem is rather that most are not allowed to work.


So the first half is absolutely right, but name me a really successful privatization...

Generally:
Parasites are not long-term Hartz IV recipients. Multimillionaires who park their money somewhere and do Cum-Ex deals. Those are parasites!
 

WilderSueden

2022-06-21 10:35:34
  • #2

Well, for my part, I was born in September and took 13 years to get my Abi. Accordingly, I was just 20 when the first semester started. Then 5 years of study to the Master’s (comfortably within the standard period), and I was 25 at the start of my career. By the way, that was without wasting a year with mud seals at the Bundeswehr or doing helper jobs in a nursing home (a friend of mine was a kitchen assistant... very social...), otherwise it would have been 26. That is quite a small difference compared to your timeline.
 

Tassimat

2022-06-21 10:38:24
  • #3
These courses for the unemployed are already a privatization. The state itself does not conduct courses. This is purchased as a service. Even though I personally find these courses stupid, they might be useful for the long-term unemployed.
 

Tolentino

2022-06-21 10:42:55
  • #4
I have gained some insight into the work of the employment agency through an acquaintance. Yes, in theory, courses are useful. But not everyone for everyone. In practice, people are placed in courses so that they disappear from the statistics. Because anyone who is in a program is no longer considered unemployed for the duration of the program... It is just not quite as relevant at the moment because overall unemployment numbers are not that high anymore. But we'll see what happens when the recession really hits and settles in.
 

Neubau2022

2022-06-21 10:55:22
  • #5


Here I have to say that you generalize a lot and that makes such a discussion pretty difficult.

1. I wrote that social benefits should be cut, not abolished. Used more efficiently instead of throwing money out the window. Using BER as an example. You can build an airport well for 3 billion, but you can also build an airport for 10 billion which is just as good as the 3-billion one.

2. The claim is definitely not 100% true. And the difference between; you can't work because of health reasons and you stay at home because it's more comfortable; has to be figured out.

3. Regarding foreigners, I agree with you. My wife was a teacher for DAZ (German as a second language) during the refugee wave back then and taught German in refugee homes. A big problem was that this German course was voluntary. So at first there were 20 students, but over time it became fewer and fewer because getting up at 9 a.m. was just too early. That was a fact back then. And I blame the government for that. They should have tied learning German to financial support. But yes, work permits also have to be issued faster.

4. In general. Again, that’s the government’s fault. Many things could be fixed quickly. For example, paying taxes in the country where they are earned or not giving people opportunities to easily "hide" their money.

We often talk about not needing laws, e.g. 130 on the highways. But I believe that humans are incorrigible (I include myself) and need laws and regulations so they don't do stupid things.

Recently heard a funny saying on the radio. It is said: "The smarter one gives in." What is the consequence of that? The stupid ones rule the world :cool:
 

Tolentino

2022-06-21 11:07:44
  • #6
It came across differently, but as far as it is formulated here, I agree (nonsensical courses to polish statistics). My approach, however, would not be to cut Hartz IV, which you specifically mentioned and to which I responded specifically. Even though I am sure that airport construction was not financed from the social spending budget, I find this a funny example because it was basically a job creation measure. Seriously, the problem of chronically missed budgets in major construction projects is another. It has more to do with procurement guidelines and underestimated planned offers, etc. But I know what you mean and yes, one can certainly also do something about the efficiency of our spending. Fully agree. Unfortunately, not quite easy to implement. The other countries have to cooperate as well. However, as far as I know, we are currently modifying the double taxation agreements. Negotiations are ongoing with several countries. Now you are generalizing. Honestly, I believe that most people – if given the opportunity – want to do something (work) and also want to fulfill themselves without harming a third party. It is the few idiots for whom, unfortunately, you need strict laws or prohibitions so they do not exploit others. Unfortunately, much of the behavior is not really obvious; that’s why you have to steer with taxes – and close loopholes.
 

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