Cost estimation for construction project and feasibility

One thing is the furniture, the other is a certain standard of the house that simply cannot be achieved with a certain price

You don’t want to understand that, you still think it’s helpful to just throw out a blanket statement! Even if, for example, only 2 out of 100 builders would build their house for 1,300 euros per square meter, it doesn’t help anyone, especially not those two, if, for example, you spout your general phrases.

It doesn’t matter whether the master bricklayer and his wife as roofer build the house in Kläden near Stendal and/or Kulle as bricklayer with his guys from the fire department and the soccer team in the countryside build the house and/or the house at Dad’s on the back plot is built in the simplest execution without much frills!

I know that some, for example living in their suits in downtown Cologne and/or the loner with two left hands, can’t imagine any of this and need the Mercedes among the construction companies, but just ask for more information, stop saying it’s not possible and doesn’t exist, find a compromise between individual help and pointing out pitfalls and classic mistakes and the acceptance that there are indeed people who make seemingly impossible things possible through diligence, skill, contacts, and time.

I feel that way too much is cut down with the scythe of negative experiences, too little questioned, and too little clearly explained about the project!

Of course, there are limits everywhere, of course you should warn and point out things, but not with the all-too-common sweeping generalizations, even a certain arrogance, and in part envy! What doesn’t work for me, didn’t work, or has to work, can’t work for others either, what I have to pay, others have to pay too, and if I don’t consider a kitchen for 5,000 euros acceptable and sufficient, others don’t have to be satisfied with it either, and if my house must be finished tight as a drum in 8 months, the construction, for example as a self-build, may not take longer for others to complete, and if my outdoor facilities require a fence, paving must be done because gravel looks crappy and cheap, then another person can’t just build their simplest house!

If you really want to help, just drop your own standards for once, ask more questions, try to put yourself in the other person’s shoes, and above all, just ask for more information, let a few facts come to you, be simply more objective and curious about the project of the OP, the consumer, before you can’t see yourself in the house, don’t believe in the project, or simply lack the possibilities for it.

If you don't have directly 6 masons and 4 electricians in the family, it won't work with 1,300€. Also, the tip was to approach [Bauträger]. I bought an A4. List 41k without equipment. With minimum equipment 51k. Do you notice something?

If you don’t have 6 masons and 4 electricians in the family right away, 1,300€ won’t work. Besides, the tip was to approach property developers. I bought myself an A4. List price 41k without equipment. With minimum equipment 51k. Notice anything?

HilfeHilfe, you speculate, you believe it is so, you assume it, and you know what? It might be, but it might not, and that’s exactly what I mean. By the way, not only related to this thread, I mean it in general.

The person seeking help hasn’t even written the last point of the last sentence yet, and it already starts, the well-meaning but non-individual recommendation orgies take their course!

Hello everyone,

Thank you very much for all the feedback. As correctly recognized, we are at the very beginning when it comes to planning, and I will definitely have to break down all the items in more detail. First, I am trying to get an overall idea of whether we want to take on such a project. I think the exact house planning can only start once we have the plot of land. However, we naturally want to buy it only when we know that the project is feasible for us. The providers we looked at include Gussek Haus, Bien-Zenker, Fischerhaus, and Allkauf Haus.

I also looked at the thread regarding additional construction costs, thanks again for the link. With my adjustment of 20,000€ and minus the furniture and kitchen, I would then be at the 40,000€.

The kitchen discussion is indeed a good example. My parents have a kitchen for 20,000€. But we also know the Ikea kitchens, which can be realized with self-assembly for 5,000 to 6,000€. Our construction project should rather lean towards "Ikea," which is why I am somewhat skeptical that I have to calculate with almost 600,000€ for such a house. This would then mean, conversely, that for a slightly larger house with a few extras, I would be at 700,000€ to 800,000€. That seems a bit too much for a house in the Braunschweig area.

Regarding the remaining debt, I am less worried because we are both relatively young and can count on a certain inheritance.

We will now deal with local developers and then see where the price journey goes. I think we have a good reference point for now.

why I am somewhat skeptical that I have to budget nearly €600k for such a house.

You do (!) not have to. For us, for example, it will come out to significantly less with the same size (but 2 full floors with a hipped roof), and even if I took your land price, I would only come to about €500k. That includes things like level-access showers, underfloor heating, roller shutters, and similar. It always simply depends on your own wishes, ideas, and discipline during selections, etc. For example, we clearly upgraded only the roof tiles and interior doors, which was clear to us beforehand and planned accordingly. I have also been told several times here in the forum that there are surely various additional costs that we have forgotten, but so far that has not been the case. The only thing is that we will still negotiate several additional services with the electrician, but we already roughly know what it will cost and that it is fully within our budget. We even had the site engineer do more substructure work for the terrace, etc., than originally planned because other items were significantly cheaper than calculated. If no major unexpected expenses actually arise, we would be somewhere between €1650 and €1700 per sqm. In some parts of Germany (which you probably belong to) it is definitely under €2000/sqm, but of course, you should first calculate with more than the minimum. So stay calm and stick with €2000/sqm for your calculations.

The kitchen discussion is indeed a good example. My parents have a kitchen for €20,000. But we also know the Ikea kitchens, which can be realized with self-assembly for €5,000-6,000. Our construction project is supposed to move more towards "Ikea," which is why I am somewhat skeptical that I have to budget nearly €600,000 for such a house

One of many important pieces of information that will run throughout your entire calculation, especially if outsiders are supposed to evaluate your project.