Comparability of costs Architect vs. General Contractor

It may be that according to the construction service description, as he writes, the OP has 330,000 including the basement, but in the conversation "I want this, I want that," that is controlled residential ventilation, larger hot water storage, different heating, better KfW, etc., with a double garage and top-notch roller shutters, then the list of incidental construction costs compiled by the general contractor ultimately comes to 439,000.

That’s how it was – standard model house 08/15 construction service description 330k including the basement. The surcharges were then KFW55, concrete staircase, lift-and-slide door elements, ventilation, ceiling height increase, underfloor heating in the basement and so on and so forth.

That’s also why there is confusion in comparability – you have catalog prices and can logically just take the house exactly like that, then that’s how it is. If you’re lucky (like some previous posters) and that also happens to be what you want – then jackpot :D ;)

The architect also said houses with mid-range to upscale fittings simply don’t cost only 2,500 euros per sqm more – that’s why the 3,000 euros per sqm. If you now take the 330k catalog house as is, then it’s solid standard (that was about 150 sqm, so 2,200€ per sqm) – but not “state of the art,” since no KfW standard, no ventilation system, no underfloor heating in the basement, low ceilings, and so on and so forth.

We remain curious about the breakdown ;)

What does kfw standard mean? The Energy Saving Ordinance is met by every standard house, otherwise it would not be approved. Because proof of this by an energy engineer is part of the building application. What does low ceilings mean? Rooms have to be 2.4 m high, as far as I remember. Thus, every building has sufficiently high ceilings. What does FHZ in the basement mean? First of all, for many of us a basement is not necessary at all, and if it is, then not necessarily heated or only by radiators, because it is not used for living purposes. What does ventilation mean? A ventilation system is a nice to have, not a basic standard. The normal case is windows that can be opened. I am not willing, given dozens of new buildings in our area, to see your extras as state of the art. They are and remain extras. There will hardly be a building without additional wishes, but those are individual preferences.

What does FHZ mean in the basement? For many of us, a basement is entirely dispensable, and if so, then not necessarily heated or only by radiators, because it is not used for living purposes.

Regarding underfloor heating in the (non-living) basement, I generally only have one comment: "and children are starving in Africa"! (oh no, that’s not true, there is a second one: "The rich like the Romans have always fallen due to decadence").

That’s why there is confusion in terms of comparability -

That’s why I write 2000€/sqm for absolute standard with plaster and very compact construction. Some people here criticize me for the mentioned 2000€ because they think I’m absolutely too high. As if I wanted to annoy them or set the prices myself :rolleyes:
In total, however, they want the whole extra package for less.

The 2000 are by now unfortunately already the lower limit.

The 2000 are unfortunately now already the lower limit.

I now expect 2000 in the North instead of 1800, and 2200 in the South instead of 2000!