Comparability of costs Architect vs. General Contractor

2021-03-05 23:13:08

Ethanol? It is not worth mentioning here as a fireplace. That is decoration! And don’t come now with an aquarium, then this thread is nonsense.

No, not ethanol. Water vapor! And yes, it is supposed to be just decoration, because we don’t need the heat. As I already wrote above: "If at all"....

2021-03-06 16:32:42

I personally couldn’t even compare the prices between 3 [GUs].

There was always something one had that was "better" than the other, and in turn something that was not included with him but was with the other. And then researching the prices for that was simply impossible for me.

In the end, we chose the one who had the most patience with us and never made us feel uneasy.

From our [GU] we received all the contacts for the sample selections in advance, so that, for example, I already got the extra charges for the individual positions from the electrician and now roughly know how much the sample selection will cost us there.

Soon we will go to the staircase builder because we are unsure whether to choose a concrete or wooden staircase. There too, we will find out the extra charges for our wishes and can either say yes or no, or plan accordingly into the financing.

For our panoramic gas fireplace, including installation, a good 12k will be due to the fireplace builder. We are also planning this accordingly now.

And yet things keep coming up that you hadn’t considered or suddenly have to have :rolleyes:

2021-03-06 17:42:13

And yet there are always things coming up that you didn’t have on your radar or suddenly absolutely have to have :rolleyes:

Ai der Daus :) What has it all been with you so far?

2021-03-06 18:25:05

Ai der Daus :) What has happened with you all so far?

I'll list what I currently have on the slate, what is going to the general contractor :)

- rigid slab foundation (1.2k)
- dirt and rainwater drain (3.5k)
- larger roof overhang (1.5k)
- raised ceilings on the ground floor and upper floor (2.5k)
- electric exterior roller shutters (approx. 7k)
- sliding lift-and-slide doors in the living room instead of "normal" patio doors (extra charge for 3 pieces approx. 9k)
- 2 glass side panels at the front door (700 €)
- different interior doors (1k)
- wall-running interior sliding door (1.5k)
- widening of the first stair step (banal but still costs 250 €)
- walk-in shower (instead of shower tray, 700 €)
- gas connection and socket for gas fireplace (1k)
- roof access window (1k)
- additional exterior water taps (600 €)
- some roof tiles because of the satellite system (200 €) my husband insists on that ..

Additionally approx. 9k for extra sockets, exterior lighting, underground cables in the garden, high-voltage connection, network and TV connections, spots (not in concrete ceiling)

As mentioned, 12k for the gas fireplace

Currently, we estimate about 10k for tiles/sanitary, we haven't reached that yet.

Furthermore, our calculation still lacks the outdoor facilities (paving + entrance steps, patio roof + awning, hedges/fence, possibly L-stones), incidental construction costs (we estimate about 30k for 390 sqm land), painter and flooring work, kitchen and possibly some new furniture, carport and entrance roof + exterior lighting ..

And it somehow keeps adding up, because after all, "you only build once".. :D

Edit: we are still building at "quite reasonable" prices, but even we will go about 15% over our planned total budget ..

So everything that is said in the forum and (which I initially thought) applies to many but not to us, is now applying to us too, good that we took it all in here in the forum, so the shock isn't so deep ;)

2021-03-06 19:48:01

after all, you only "build once"..

I would not agree with that saying regarding anyone under 70.

2021-03-06 20:02:22

I'll list what I currently have on my sheet that goes to the general contractor :)

- rigid base slab (1.2k)
- dirt and rainwater channel (3.5k)
- larger roof overhang (1.5k)
- raised ceilings on the ground floor and upper floor (2.5k)
- electric exterior shutters (approx. 7k)
- sliding lift-and-slide doors in the living room instead of "normal" terrace doors (extra cost for 3 pieces approx. 9k)
- 2 glass side panels at the front door (700 €)
- different interior doors (1k)
- interior sliding door running inside the wall (1.5k)
- widening of the first stair step (trivial but still costs 250 €)
- walk-in shower (instead of shower tray, 700 €)
- gas connection and socket for gas fireplace (1k)
- roof exit window (1k)
- additional outdoor taps (600 €)
- some roof tiles because of the satellite system (200 €) my husband insists on that ..)

Additionally approx. 9k for extra sockets, outdoor lighting, underground cable in the garden, heavy current connection, network and TV connections, spotlights (not in concrete ceiling)

As mentioned, 12k for the gas fireplace

Currently, we estimate about 10k for tiles/sanitary, as we have not gotten that far yet.

Furthermore, our calculation still lacks the outdoor facilities (paving + entrance steps, terrace roofing + awning, hedges/fence, possibly L-blocks), incidental construction costs (we calculate about 30k for 390 sqm plot), painting and flooring work, kitchen and possibly some new furniture, carport and entrance roofing + outdoor lighting..

And it somehow keeps adding up, because after all "you only build once".. :D

Edit: we are still building at "fairly reasonable" prices, but we will also go about 15% over our targeted total volume..

So everything that is stated in the forum and (what I initially also) thought certainly applies to many but not to us, is now hitting us too; good thing we have taken all this here in the forum, so the shock isn't so deep ;)

WoW - that obviously wasn’t included much in your original calculation? Who helped you with that – or did you “roughly estimate”? Did you already have some offer changes before signing the contract with the general contractor to better assess the price, or did these wishes really only come up after signing?

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