Can an average family afford a single-family house at all?

  • Erstellt am 2016-08-02 14:02:36

Steffen80

2016-08-02 16:56:52
  • #1


I also think it looks quite good. Civil servant + good equity + good income! Of course, a single-family house is doable.

Regards, Steffen

PS: "Nobody needs the huge 250 sqm houses from the '80s anymore" — please not so general. I would actually need 300-400 sqm... and I also know many who could easily live in these spaces. When you have been in a 130 sqm living room with a lowered huge sofa for the first time, you think differently.
 

Woogl

2016-08-02 19:49:14
  • #2
Hello Jochen 104

Thank you very much for your detailed breakdown. I have always calculated with 2000 per square meter (as a kind of Bavaria surcharge). That’s why at some point half a million was on the table. And THAT somehow really weighs on me. It is unfortunately very difficult to get figures from current new builds. Homeowners always keep very quiet here.

And I certainly don’t see myself as "upper class." Here in BMW and Audi country (+various suppliers and Munich vicinity) apparently way too much money is circulating. Land prices increased by 25% in a few years in the "Outback"!!! If this continues, I see a bleak future for many families.
 

Curly

2016-08-02 19:55:33
  • #3
For a house with 160m², I would estimate more than 256,000 euros. Especially since most people do have some extra wishes, e.g., colored windows, dormers, larger windows, different sanitary equipment, etc..

Best regards
Sabine
 

Climbee

2016-08-02 20:04:48
  • #4
I don't consider Jochen's prices to be a benchmark for Bavaria either.

250€ per square meter is unrealistic if it should have the infrastructure you want. For a ventilation system, we were quoted about €20,000. I live VERY rurally, far from the infrastructure standards you have, about 60km away from Munich (no public transport, no shops, school and kindergarten in the neighboring village, secondary school in the district town). We have an inn, a church, and a mailbox, 700 inhabitants, half of whom are in the stable ) and here you already have to expect 350 - 400 €. Just as a comparison, you know. Various home builders told us a price per square meter of €2,300 - €2,600. Wooden houses, priced roughly like solid houses. And these were offers from the Allgäu, which is cheaper than providers from the Munich area. I can't say anything about the other prices, I don't have any info there. But I am sure that a Bavaria surcharge should be calculated there as well.

For a plot of that size with those demands, I consider half a million overall to be by no means an exaggeration, but realistic and without too many extra wishes.

But with your income certainly doable.
 

Legurit

2016-08-02 20:15:59
  • #5
It would be nice if we could agree on a standardization... what do you get for 1500 €, for 2000 €, and for the legendary 2600 €?
 

Climbee

2016-08-02 20:24:47
  • #6
Was quoted for the turnkey version with a floor slab. Without photovoltaics or ventilation, that comes on top.
 

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