BEV - Battery Electric Vehicle Erfahrungsberichte und Empfehlungen

With the Chinese models, as with Tesla, I lack the trust that they handle the collected data in a user-friendly manner. One quickly forgets that one is buying a connected always-on device, which not only has location tracking but also microphones and cameras, the switching on and off of which is not as controllable as with a mobile phone.

Please google "We know where your car is parked"
The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) reveals that the Volkswagen Group systematically collects movement data from hundreds of thousands of vehicles of the brands VW, Audi, Skoda, and Seat and stores it over long periods. The data, including information about vehicle owners, was also accessible on the internet without protection.

Please google "Wir wissen, wo dein Auto steht" The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) reveals that the Volkswagen Group systematically collects movement data from hundreds of thousands of vehicles of the brands VW, Audi, Skoda, and Seat and stores it over long periods. The data, including information about vehicle owners, was also accessible unprotected on the internet.

So? They were just stupid enough to get caught. Otherwise, I "expect" that from every manufacturer and, if possible, even more information collections by the Chinese. Surely no one seriously believes that if they own an electronic device like a PC, smartphone, modern car, etc., and at best also use something from Musk/Zuckerberg, their data is not being harvested.

It becomes quite clear with this topic how different the respective approaches, feelings, expectations, and parameters are, and that is actually good and in my opinion completely normal. For your requirement profile, as well as ours, you could simply take the cheapest offer when leasing and would probably be able to meet the needs with it. When buying, other parameters presumably come into play in the decision again. I have a search order at Goleasy, especially regarding the leasing factor, and I am surprised what pops up on some days. I am sure that new offers will keep coming in during the summer; as I said, you really have to react very quickly with the few top offers. I am not deeply familiar with the topic of China, but I am sure that not everything there happens to the customer's advantage. However, considering that even the AUDI board member was in custody and that almost the entire German automotive industry has cheated its customers, I basically don’t feel any more uncomfortable about driving a Tesla of the in my opinion crazy Musk. In my utility room, there is photovoltaic technology from Huawei, without which the German telecommunications network probably wouldn’t function anymore (layman’s information), and as far as I know, my MG Marvel from SAIC China probably comes out of the same hall as some VW and Skoda (SAIC Volkswagen Automotive Co., Ltd.). I have also test-driven the Ora, which is sometimes available cheaply, and we really found it fun; so the question is rather how much more money you are willing or able to spend in order to have more fun driving, and fun is defined differently by each person. I often read about software problems and cannot disagree. For me, on the other hand, these are almost irrelevant because other things give me pleasure and I hardly use the software options. The basic needs for electric cars can already be covered with little money. I like the Ford Mach-E or also the Capri and the XPeng. Who knows what the summer will bring. At the moment, I see an Ioniq6 at a great leasing price.

For your requirement profile, as well as ours, you could simply take the cheapest offer for leasing and would probably be able to cover your needs with it. When buying, different parameters tend to come into play in the decision again. I have a search order at Goleasy especially concerning the leasing factor

This approach got me the 500e back then. I urgently needed a BEV and sorted by rate and immediate availability. That resulted in a 500e with good equipment and a leasing rate of €100/month. Another bargain in the fleet currently is a Volvo XC60 (250hp gasoline) "fully loaded" for just under €140 per month with 15,000 km. If you are unemotional about it, you can really drive cheaply. Especially since many manufacturers will be forced this year to subsidize their e-car offerings in order to meet CO2 fleet targets. There should be something possible. And that without any cheap Chinese car.

Another bargain in the fleet is currently a Volvo XC60 (250hp petrol) "fully loaded" for just under €140 per month with 15,000 km...

Wow, that would be exactly my thing but we have completely switched to electric cars. One is driven daily by my wife and the other mostly stays at home with me and is charged when it’s cheap or from the photovoltaic system. From about March to October, we basically use nothing from the grid, except when we go away.
Range and charging speed, which initially worried us and probably everyone else, no longer really matter to us. Otherwise, for longer trips, we have changed our way of traveling and already know some nice stops, so a bug has essentially become a feature. I’m curious what it will be like in summer, although I can wait if necessary until the right offer comes along.

Please google "We know where your car is" The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) reveals that the Volkswagen Group systematically collects movement data from hundreds of thousands of vehicles from the brands VW, Audi, Skoda, and Seat and stores it over long periods.

Yes, I’m aware that the others are not saints either and that there are also mishaps. And yet I see a difference. All this surveillance technology justified by the undeniable argument of safety really gets on my nerves. Therefore, especially outside of winter, I particularly like to drive my 22-year-old Smart – quite environmentally friendly to use resources for a long time with low consumption, no surveillance technology (except for the cell phone, which can be turned off), pure driving pleasure, and an increasing value. This car is more sensible than it seems.