Assessment & assistance semi-detached house, approx. 180 sqm in DIY floor plan

  • Erstellt am 2023-02-10 13:28:21

kbt09

2023-02-13 12:51:09
  • #1
If you want to make the house 12 m long, but the building boundary only allows a 12 m window, do you already have positive indications that the terrace will be approved? Because, as far as I know, the terrace must be approved outside the building boundary by exemption.
 

Mar_Mar

2023-02-13 13:02:12
  • #2

hm, thanks for the detailed answer! That’s exactly why I’m here... for such helpful answers :)


GF: It may be a matter of taste, but I personally find it better if there is just a wall with the door open and not a cabinet that you can only use if you close the door again. Therefore, I deliberately tried to open the door towards the wall and not into the room.
The kitchen is planned in the floor plan with 5 m length (minus door to pantry), island with 2.2 x 1.1 m. Shouldn’t that be enough?
UF: I don’t like the bathroom either, it definitely has to be better. Both kids go to the south.
Attic: According to the development plan we should not have any knee wall, we might build a dormer on the south side to create more space. Generally, not much will happen up there in the next years, as it will be for guests or when one of the kids eventually needs to spread out.


Do you happen to have a floor plan that creates airiness/generosity without reinventing the wheel? I just lack ideas there….
Selling and continuing the search is not an option. Either we win the lottery again, an unknown aunt dies, or our life expectancy rises to 120 years, otherwise it is at least impossible to find something here.
 

Mar_Mar

2023-02-13 13:13:50
  • #3
I always orient myself based on the neighboring buildings. If the house opposite has utilized everything the same way and still has a terrace, it should probably work for us too, right?
 

ypg

2023-02-13 13:25:49
  • #4

They could. But of course with an extra charge. Because in the standard, the attic is often only a cold roof.., so of course no wiring or heating is possible. The attic conversion is an optional extra!

And that’s putting it mildly. I can think of other words.

I don’t think you can or want to do without the necessary standing area in the long run. When planning a house build, you also take into account that you might furnish differently at some point, or need to store or accommodate more over time. That’s why you plan for sensible standing room.

I have many, and if not, then I plan them ;)
But not with different stairs. That amateurish mishmash for me would be a faux pas, a negative eyecatcher that achieves the opposite. Given the width of the house, I could imagine a straight staircase running transversely. But that would currently be a theoretical experiment ;)
 

hanse987

2023-02-13 13:42:48
  • #5


Pencil, ruler, and graph paper
 

11ant

2023-02-13 14:50:30
  • #6


Oops, right, it was that one:

What is statically feasible does not depend on the company, but on the construction method. In "solid construction" with a staff discount at ThyssenKrupp pretty much everything is possible, also with a platinum card from Sultanbank – but that should not be abused for dreamy layman planning. It’s not like you have to bury your dream house right away just because you accept the framework of a somewhat economical structural calculation. "Integrated beams" are actually no longer such, and through tricks they often become easily twice as expensive.

Being a construction f*rma is no shame, you don’t need to censor the names. I have also already encountered the lady to quit dealing with, fortunately well-known general contractors are not as bad as their sales representatives. But for good reason, I recommended the relevant semi-detached and terraced house developers to you because they are considerably more useful for inspiring workable construction proposals: they build entire baking trays full of semi-detached and terraced houses en suite with the most sophisticated variants. You want to build in a more relaxed width than their models, so you can copy these with a further tightened belt and get functional floor plans with "business" instead of "economy" elbowroom. If you come to a general contractor with a desire for a semi-detached house eight or eight and a half meters wide, they take from their drawer a detached single-family house with a bricked-up window side – the disappointing result is inevitable.

Stairs require a headroom that is about half a meter less than the usual clear room height. From this derives a potential of up to three risers of acceptable overhead clearance. And indeed you can switch stair shapes between floors – but from X to Y and from Y to X is not equally easy. And in most cases, it also causes you to "lose" both stair floor areas in the two affected floors. Even the most experienced planners do this only in exceptional cases, and as a beginner you better leave that alone. You can see on your Roomsketcher image illustrated in exemplary fashion that you even exceed the imagination of the software. Your request for hints about other software is cute, but this is not where the problem lies.


Thanks to the Carolingians, you can also do without the ruler. By the way, that’s my favorite professional tool. For details such as stairs, you can switch to the scale 1:50, i.e. four squares for one meter.


You have to calculate the concrete number yourself, which is not quite trivial. But I generally advise never trying to squeeze building windows down to the centimeter. You get the concrete formula by combining two sources: the respective state building code tells you your minimum of 2.5 or 3.0 meters and the house height h in the weighting of 0.4 or 0.5. From your specific development plan, you must then deduce to which reference height the house height is to be "applied".



An exemption would be required, and an exemption certificate would be exactly out of the question. Whether the neighbors applied for an exemption is as invisible from the result as whether their terrace is an illegal construction. Quite often, the building authorities tolerate the pure paving and turn a blind eye until you want to put a roof on it.
 

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