Nothing here at all, chapeau!
@all: Make yourselves all ...
You can’t ...
... moreover, you shouldn’t forget ...
I really don’t like such generalizations – especially not when the two responses regarding your draft do not in any way align with your described attitude.
You have received constructive criticism. Unfortunately, it doesn't suit (you)... it would have been helpful if you had, in advance, as you do with an architect, outlined the corresponding needs of the family.
Personally, I would have saved myself a lot of effort; instead, I’m getting a sort of reprimand from you.
On top of that, you defend the design errors in the draft.
After all, the floor plan looks very similar to a Heinz von Heiden house, just somewhat altered – and with these negative oddities in the floor plan that I would not want to live with and wouldn’t even “grant” my enemies, it's very likely a pre-made floor plan from construction companies that approach changes carelessly. Well, it’s a homemade plan, probably derived from so many house examples – regardless, it is not good.
But at least a satisfactory version should be achieved and one should not settle for just adequate.
You have already received constructive critiques, but you must also be able to understand and accept them. Play it through!
No one here has time to give you multiple examples for one flaw, but the approach for reconsideration is here :)
Now to the questions: The house is oriented with the terrace southwest and the plot is about 1200 sqm and located in the second row in a rural area.
Unfortunately, the building window is still unknown, so it’s not worthwhile for us users to shift exterior walls a bit.
Basically, I would spontaneously mirror the house. As it is now, the children won’t get any sunlight in their rooms after autumn.
I would plan the kitchen facing east.
Or swap the kitchen and parents’ bedroom, which would also give a different (better?) position to the bathroom and guest WC.
The toilet is intended as a second WC for 5 people and as a guest toilet. I think it would be excessive to design a fancy bathroom for the children. This is neither functional nor conducive to fostering a corresponding sense of values in the offspring.
It’s not about granting the children better than the parents, but the main bathroom should be located where the use is greatest. It always makes sense to split 5 people over 2 bathrooms, even if the guest WC will be one of them.
Otherwise, later, 5 people will quarrel over the shower in the morning. Kids bathe more often than adults... this really has nothing to do with values, if the parents indulge in a shower bath besides a family bathroom.
We as a family do not find a division into public and private zones desirable either, since everything that belongs to the family should also be used by the family; private zones are individual rooms, everything else would be luxury...
Somehow contradictory?!
At a later time, when the children are no longer living at home, the children’s rooms and guest WC may be separated from the rest of the house and possibly used as a practice, which is why the children’s zone is entirely on one side.
Even without using it as a practice, I think the solution is well chosen.
The hallway was also deliberately chosen as such because it corresponds with our current apartment and we find it sufficient; additional daylight can be created with light openings in the doors. The hallway is purely a passage room and not living space.
For my taste, 13 sqm is 7 sqm too much – after all, you already have an entrance area – a corridor that has no further use like, for example, housing built-in wardrobes and storage. About 6 sqm can be better used and utilized.
Regarding storage, which you do not have: there is not even space in the entrance area for a cupboard. Are you aware of that???
My general opinion: if you don’t have much space, you should open up a bit and keep traffic areas low, and use them multifunctionally.
Regarding light: light openings in children’s rooms and bathrooms should be taboo as then no privacy exists. Only the kitchen door remains.
Regarding the kitchen, we have deliberately chosen a separate room because we cook, bake, and craft a lot and exclusively eat in the kitchen. The dining area in the living room is only for guests eating and is mainly meant to be our game table, so no long journeys to dine...
That is also okay if you like it like that: but the dining area in the kitchen is not really well thought out here, and the living room as a “good” living room for guests is kept quite large. This can be planned better.
In my opinion, the pantry is functionally best arranged with a kitchen; otherwise, where would a pantry make sense??? It is only intended to store food such as potatoes, onions, apples, preserves; we don’t want to cure sausage or store bread... Storing such things in kitchen cupboards has cost me a lot of space and is impractical, but in 2.22 sqm one can store that quite well and the cupboards remain clean and available as storage, with the dining table in close vicinity.
Well, the dining table doesn’t necessarily have to be next to the preserves ;)
A pantry is usually the wish of all builders – I think a storage room for whatever makes sense, but not in prime southwest location ;)
The dressing room is not intended as a "dressing room," but serves to hide the wardrobe. In the bedroom, I want only the bed and no additional wardrobes in the future. About the topic of the sleeper being disturbed, I have to say, what are people supposed to do in a 3-room apartment??? So again a small luxury problem or???
Hiding something behind doors? Somehow the arguments get overlooked here. To speak in your words:
Where in a 3-room apartment is there a separation for the wardrobe in the bedroom????
The utility room is also deliberately planned in the hallway area, so craftsmen don’t have to be let into the house first, a door to the outside would spoil the exterior view, so also a deliberate decision.
I go there several times a day, my husband also... Craftsmen come once a year. Meanwhile, your hallway still has no wardrobe and that won’t fit in the utility room either. Strike utility room, call it technical room!
Now about the living room, so 35 sqm is definitely enough as a living room, contrary claims seem again to be a luxury problem... The three windows bring enough daylight into the room and only space for two sideboards is needed; we are not fans of cupboards.
From your description now, the living room is already a rather luxurious size... maybe worth considering a large eat-in kitchen for multipurpose use (eating and playing) and a smaller living room?
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Anyone who can still provide constructive contributions, I would be grateful, and for the future of this forum I would wish for a bit more politeness and realism. Questions should be addressed directly to the poster. For 5 people, the space may not be particularly generous, but each child has their own room, there is a garden and space, time, and money for shared activities. That would not be the case if one overestimates space and generosity wishes and then cannot pay the installments. Then comes the time when the kids leave the nest and then you have a huge house to maintain, who wants that???
Sorry, but that had to be said....
I hope I was polite enough with my suggestions. Nevertheless, I have to say that there is no good floor plan here, and you don’t seem willing to reconsider the constructive criticism.
Besides, the generalized reprimand still leaves a bit of a bad taste!
Questions should always go through the thread; otherwise, you always have the same questions in the inbox, and you’ve already understood why there is a house building forum.
Otherwise, I would recommend consulting an architect with your needs.
There are also functional floor plans on the net – which, even if the execution on the net is sometimes a bit luxurious, can be rebuilt affordably with a simpler roof.
It got a bit longer now... and of course parallels to Wanderdüne :)