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It's always interesting to see how people keep bashing the bonus at VW.
It's not even a full month's salary.
How many companies pay a 13th and 14th month's salary? How many pay for childcare or cover the costs for mobility? You don't get any of that at VW. Yes, you earn well at VW. In the indirect area, though, most are also university-educated engineers. They would get the same pay from other employers like Siemens and co.
This bonus topic keeps coming up...

Best regards!

Always interesting to see how the bonus at VW is being criticized.
That’s not even a full month’s salary.
How many companies pay a 13th and 14th month salary? How many pay for childcare or cover the costs for mobility? You don’t get any of that at VW. Yes, you earn well at VW. But in the indirect area, most are also degree-educated engineers. They would get the same money at other employers like Siemens and co.
This bonus topic keeps coming up...

Best regards!

I’m about to fall off my chair... out of pity! The poor well-educated engineers don’t get a 13th and 14th month salary!

Inform yourself...there are practically NO full-time positions! Only in private daycares or with providers like Volkssolidarität...but they all pay even worse! Show me a childcare worker who has a net salary of 1700 EUR... And apart from that, you don’t really want to sell me 1700 EUR net as a good salary, do you? That’s 10.62 EUR net per hour. That may be average...but it’s simply a joke. Just think about the responsibility childcare workers have. The assembly line worker at VW goes home with 18 EUR net! Well, thanks...

Well, my better half is a special needs educator and knows tons of full-time childcare workers earning 1700€ a month. And if you think 1700€ is little, you’ve probably lost touch with reality. Here in the north, less than 10% of employees earn more than that. (That’s why no one builds basements either.)

And 10.5€ net isn’t that bad, after all, we’re not talking about gross. As an entrepreneur, you would have to know the additional ancillary costs. If childcare workers earned more, kindergarten places would also cost more. And by the way, primary school teachers don’t really earn more either – and they haven’t been civil servants for a long time...

so my better half is a special education teacher and knows tons of full-time educators with 1700€ per month. and anyone who thinks 1700€ is little has probably lost touch with reality. here in the north there are not even 10% of employees who earn more than this amount. (which is also why no one builds basements)

and 10.5€ net is not that bad, we are not talking about gross. as an entrepreneur you should know the additional ancillary costs. if educators earned more, kindergarten places would also cost more money. and primary school teachers don't really earn more either - and have long since not been civil servants anymore...

Then that may be the case with you. Here in the East we also know many educators (already through school) and on average they earn 1300-1400 EUR net (30h) or 1500-1600 EUR for 40h.

I did not say that 1700 EUR is little (you have to read carefully!). It is average or slightly below.. just look at the corresponding statistics. Kindergarten places should be free... in return, child benefits can gladly be abolished!

Always interesting to see how people keep picking on the bonus at VW.
That’s not even a full month’s salary.
How many companies pay a 13th and 14th month’s salary? How many pay for childcare or cover mobility costs? At VW you get none of that. Yes, you earn well at VW. But in the indirect area, most are also university-educated engineers. They would get the same pay at other employers like Siemens and co.
This bonus topic keeps coming up...

Sure, VW is often brought up and of course every employee is free to work there. BUT: they really live in a salary paradise. Thanks to the in-house collective agreement, they earn a bit more from the start than the competition and that with a 35-hour week. In addition, there is a 13th salary + holiday pay (I think that is about half a month’s salary). If you then get an annual bonus of several thousand euros, that’s already something the "average engineer" usually only dreams of. They would deserve it, too, if they didn’t constantly complain about their tough fate. I have some friends there who are really crying this year because the bonus is so low and now special repayments + vacation are no longer 100% covered by it. I personally find that sad, considering what a disastrous year VW has had. A fellow student of mine has roughly the same position at VW as I do, earns about 25% more than me annually (and I am also at a renowned international company). I wouldn’t want to work in VW’s structures, but anyone who complains about being underpaid there has lost all sense of reality. It’s the same with teachers. At least gymnasium teachers are well paid and I’m happy for them, but it always annoys me how much they complain about their tough job when they have to correct an exam or attend a parent-teacher meeting or go on a class trip without extra pay. Hey, I also have to go on business trips to Thailand, China, and Brazil, and it’s no fun either to work 12 hours in a factory hall at 40°C and be escorted to dinner by security because crime rates are so high. But I don’t complain about it because that’s just part of the job.

I'm about to fall off my chair... out of sheer pity! The poor, fully educated engineers don’t get 13th and 14th month salaries!

Completely destructive post. I never said that people at VW earn too little or need pity. But just because VW is in the media every year, people forget that other companies, as already mentioned, pay 13th and 14th salaries, cover daycare costs and so on. That just doesn’t make it into the media. From my point of view, it’s simply incomprehensible why it’s always about VW. Daimler pays roughly the same salary and similar bonuses. You never hear anything about them. Other car manufacturers as well. It’s always VW that’s the complaining wall. That’s what it’s about.

... In addition, there is a 13th salary + holiday pay (I think that is about half a monthly salary). If you then also get an annual bonus of several thousand euros, that is something the "average engineer" usually only dreams of.

There is no 13th salary. There are 12 salaries + bonus + holiday pay. From the bonus, only an advance payment is already made in November, and then the rest in May. And holiday pay is not even close to half a salary.

As I said, I would never say that people at VW earn poorly or too little here, because that would be wrong. It’s just that the focus is always on VW with this topic, although, for example, the other manufacturers in the automotive industry pay just as well. Sometimes even better.

Sorry for off-topic. I’ll stop now.