Which heating system is currently the best?

  • Erstellt am 2012-09-10 23:49:54

€uro

2012-10-16 15:33:36
  • #1
Correct!
Why?

regards
 

EarlGrey

2012-10-16 17:04:27
  • #2
So Euro, you ask questions.

Well, my main idea is independence. I hope a lot from the solar system that heats all the domestic and heating water (for a planned underfloor heating).

Additionally, photovoltaic so that I can use my own electricity and have to draw less.

Well, and the heat pump is supposed to serve as heating in the whole system. A ventilation system with heat recovery is almost a must if I'm planning a passive or low-energy house.

I ask (once again) for correction of my really limited view on this topic. Or have I really thought of everything this time?^^

Regards Earl
 

€uro

2012-10-16 17:58:00
  • #3
A mistake, especially when there is high demand, the solar thermal system delivers nothing or hardly anything (heating operation)! Is the investment justified then? Solar thermal system - hot water: A pure sham with "normal" usage habits in a single-family house! A completely different league! Heat pump + photovoltaic => a very sensible concept for heating and hot water!

best regards
 

EarlGrey

2012-10-17 07:37:12
  • #4


Ok, so in your opinion it is better to rely on a heat pump (air-water heat pump) and a good photovoltaic system. Right? And why?

Is the efficiency of a solar thermal system really to be disregarded to such an extent? In your opinion, should I omit the solar thermal system entirely or only plan it as a supplementary system?

Regards Earl
 

€uro

2012-10-17 10:28:16
  • #5
Correct, heat pump + photovoltaic. The type of heat pump that makes sense is provided by the results of a preliminary basic assessment (actual demand (capacity, energy) for heating and hot water). For higher demand, for example, a ground-source heat pump with vertical probe(s), surface or trench collector will be effective. With moderate to low demand, the better annual performance factor of a ground-source heat pump is less important, so here an air heat pump is quite sufficient.
Efficiencies are performance-related "snapshots" and are therefore less interesting. For the operator, the energy-related annual utilization rate is more important.
Example: A heat generator based on the combustion principle has a combustion or boiler efficiency of 95%. The annual utilization rate of the system, however, is only about 60%. 40% of the input (purchased) energy is lost without any benefit. What value does this efficiency now have?
Example controlled residential ventilation: The manufacturer specifies a heat recovery of 80% (performance-related). The actual utilization rate, depending on the climate region, is only about 30...40%.
Example solar thermal system hot water: Although the energy source (sun) is freely available, only fractions of it can actually be used practically. Problems here are the "storage issue" as well as the daily course of the sun’s power supply (not constant). In a commercial operation where hot water consumption is distributed over the day, a solar thermal system makes sense; however, in a single-family home where the residents leave in the morning and come back in the evening, it makes less sense! Certainly, some kWh are "harvested" over the course of the year, but this yield usually bears no relation to the demand or the investments necessary for it. The theoretically nicely calculated energy efficiency mostly exists only on paper (e.g., KfW verification).
Leave it out entirely and focus on the essentials! System installers often already have problems designing even simple configurations energy-efficiently because they often omit an adequate basic assessment, planning/dimensioning of the system. The more components involved in heat generation, the worse the overall utilization rate despite sometimes quite high investments.

v.g.
 

kamnik

2012-10-23 12:27:18
  • #6


which heating system is currently the best?

Gas condensing boiler + Swedish stove/Bullerjan/Chief stove
The gas condensing units have proven themselves; they are also suitable as solutions for individual apartments.
Too much loss via central heating – here the condensing unit is more efficient.

Thermal solar systems can be forgotten. Hardly any savings potential (< 15% range). After 15 years = waste = Anatol re-investment.
Money thrown away. Better to save the money and invest in a photovoltaic system? (just my opinion)

In general: Anything that involves too much technology is nothing. Ultimately, it’s a matter of comfort?
Do you have problems carrying hardwood briquettes? Then take a wood chip stove.

We use an AEG eco water boiler in test mode for the shower, kitchen. We don’t need a bathtub.
Electricity cost for the shower boiler: approx. 100 euros

Heating is done with a gas condensing boiler down to 12 degrees Celsius. The rest is done by the Swedish stoves.
Fuel: a handful of pellets to start, otherwise only hardwood briquettes. Pure beech wood, spruce wood was yesterday.

ps. ultimately you have to take the calculator in your hand and do the math.
Unfortunately, a bunch of nonsense is sold by so-called "specialist companies," especially at trade fairs, because everyone has the best.
 

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