Solution for extractor fan on cooking island (downdraft vs ceiling)

All right, then I will post the topic there over the weekend. I have also already read there that it is partly advised to push the cooktop to the wall. But I cannot understand the arguments. The only big advantage is that you can get it done much cheaper. But what are 1000 € when you have the kitchen for 20 years. Then better once properly. Otherwise, I see that I lose a wall cabinet. The look would also be completely interrupted (I only want 40 cm high display cabinets and below a small continuous wooden board as a shelf. Then I only have a 60 cm oven cabinet on the wall. No 80 cm cooktop fits in there. And about cooking times. I cook almost daily & even something as simple as pasta with sauce stays on the stove for a good 20 minutes. Sure, if you only eat briefly fried steaks every day that might be true, but I don't see it that way (currently I have gas - that has power too). And with induction cooktops, you can also use Teppanyaki plates, etc. It's really nice when something like that is then oriented towards the dining area. PS: You have to clean the grease filter - yes, but they cost nothing. They are usually reusable filters.

The arguments for a cooktop on the wall are the lack of cross currents, which you have on an island and which negatively affect the extractor hood's effectiveness.

But where you plan the island, according to your drawing, you have barely 50cm of passage between the wall and the cabinet. How do you imagine that? Even if the door opens outward, that is incredibly tight and you can only let very slim people into the kitchen. If those are the room dimensions, I would urgently recommend planning only an L-shape or a two-row layout there!

By the way, the working height is 93, not 83.

Only overweight people? So they get stuck?
There also seems to be a lack of distance between the fridge and the wall.
It's understandable that when cooking you prefer to look into the room if others are there.
In my opinion, a box in which you insert a fan unit would visually disturb much more than anything else.
If the thing is directly under the ceiling, the grease not only falls straight down but is also spread sideways by air currents.

Also take a look at Novy.
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The passage is currently 58.5. Sure, it’s not a wide-open door, but I don’t know anyone who would have trouble getting through it.

Two rows don’t work, then you only have 1.10 m in the middle. That is also really tight. Better to have just one short narrow spot. With an L-shape, you have extremely little space at first, and I don’t find it nice either.

The thing about the refrigerator is true, but unfortunately it can’t be changed. From the wall to the window it’s only 60 cm. That’s why we want to take these fronts without handles, so nothing will bang against the wall.

Visually, I find a ceiling suspended over the island much nicer than something like an island extractor fan. Also because you can easily integrate LED spots there & possibly implement an illuminated shadow gap.
About equally nice I find only a stove with an integrated fan (e.g. Bora)

The only thing that is slowly really making me uncertain is that the grease is not sufficiently extracted by the ceiling fan. I’ve read that 2-3 times now – as a warning. But I haven’t seen a correspondingly negative review anywhere yet (maybe it actually works).

PS: It would look roughly like this, just with a nicer extractor & without a grille for the recirculation:

The Gutmann Planea would best fulfill your wishes, except for the price. With the price limit, the decision remains whether to prioritize design or functionality.

I just recalculated and even come to 119 cm distance between the countertops. At least I will draw the possibility after all. As a two-row U, there would at least be somewhat space again.

It's not that I am not open to being proven wrong, but I also have very specific ideas about what I like and what I don't.