Smarthome - General question of meaning

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motorradsilke

2021-08-12 22:51:04
  • #1
With a car, I have no choice in many things; I have to buy the supposedly comfort-bringing features. Fortunately, with a house, I can still choose whether I decide myself when I want which light and which temperature and to drink coffee, or whether an automation decides that for me. I can hardly imagine any functions that I would want to have automatically controlled.
 

Tarnari

2021-08-13 00:11:17
  • #2
Well, you can practice renunciation. Honestly, I don’t buy that from you. I had a buddy whom I used to argue with late into the night. Everything was rubbish to him. But he consumed everything and benefited from a lot himself. At some point, I got fed up. I said, stop complaining. If everything is rubbish, go into politics and change something. Anyone can start a party and run for election. Then comes the argument that I can’t change anything. But continuing makes it unbelievable. He always said, I don’t need all that stuff. It’s destroying us. The next day he arranged a meeting by SMS (digitally!). I said, I can’t take you seriously. Go live in a hut in the forest. I have all the understanding in the world for such viewpoints, even more — I have a lot of respect and partly a little envy. But most don’t mean it seriously. They only talk. Although they could act. If you read carefully, I deliberately didn’t mention the smartphone. I wanted to at first, but then I thought this invention doesn’t deserve to be included in my list. I talked about the internet and networking and asked if we want to do without them. Do we want to do without whole populations being able to unite against their regimes because of this invention? Isn’t it great that I can book a train ticket online for my almost blind mother in order to send it to her? Isn’t it great that you can exchange ideas with us in this forum? You might even be using your smartphone or tablet for that? If all that is rubbish, then you can renounce it. It’s certainly hard, but it’s possible. Lead the way. Be an example.
 

Sahitaz

2021-08-13 00:25:18
  • #3
Why do I sell my car again after a few years? I can also drive my car until it is no longer economically repairable. The reason for getting a new car is probably less often that the old one had problems that were too difficult to solve. And you have the choice, you can also drive a Dacia with basic equipment. Or drive an oldtimer again as an everyday car, but that's not that much fun anymore (I am a big car fan and also drive oldtimers, but only for pleasure, not daily)... No central locking, searching for the radio frequency with the rotary knob, using a map instead of a navigation system, etc. No one can credibly tell me otherwise. I myself drive comparatively 'old' cars (currently 11 years old), I really don’t need the latest gimmicks, but compared to my first car (a BMW e30 from '89), it is something completely different. I really enjoy the cornering lights, the climate control, the automatic BT connection to the phone, and many other things.

If there is a problem with home automation, I call in the specialist (if I am not one myself) just like I go to the workshop for the car. Sorry, but that is pure disparagement. I can understand that if there are recurring problems, selling the car makes sense, but a reasonable home automation system is, compared to the complexity of a car, quite simple logic, wiring, and much less affected by external influences like weather (for example, cable breaks happen rather rarely in the house, contact problems due to corrosion are probably also significantly reduced). How often do problems with modern building technology actually occur and wasn't it perhaps due to a lack of expertise in planning and implementation (serious question)?

In a smart home, you can still manually switch the light and adjust the temperature, but with sensible automation, the proportion of times I do this will be negligible. We have now automated lighting, shading, and partly heating during the renovation. In a new building, I would definitely automate these trades again and expand them (brightness sensors, dimmers, weather station, etc.) and I would not skimp on integrating the front door either (the doorbell cannot be heard throughout the entire apartment and do I really have to walk to the intercom to open and hurry for the guest’s sake, then wait in the stairwell until they have come up? Do I have to lock up separately or does the house do that on its own, with all entrance doors when leaving?). These are all things you can do manually and (so far) do. But we used to unlock each door individually in the car, and nobody would think of that today. We are talking about basic, simple, and long-proven automation tasks here, not highly complex things like gesture recognition to change the radio volume by making circular movements with the index finger in the air.

I think for most people it is still fear of something 'new and unknown' rather than really rational justifiable reasons.
 

Tarnari

2021-08-13 00:53:37
  • #4
I also find it very worrying that they talk about electronic waste here and at the same time about cars being discarded if they no longer run as desired. I have driven every car so far as long as it runs. The current used Skoda Octavia from 2014 will be driven until it falls apart. But then comes the double standard again. Lease a car, then lease the next car. Company car? Sure, but I have to get rid of it later and better lease a new one because it’s better for taxes. Monetary advantage and so on. Electric car? Environmentally friendly? Sure! I’m in. Fat hybrid SUV, total 300 hp. Electric motor 50 km range, rest by combustion engine. There’s even a bonus. Such hypocrisy.
 

manohara

2021-08-13 04:30:49
  • #5
I find the argument that you are not credible if you are against "something" but still use it to be "off track."

I am in favor of a speed limit of 130 km/h on highways, but I drive 160 km/h when the situation allows it. It would be easier to stick to that if not everyone around me were driving faster.

I know some people who smoke even though they know it is unhealthy.

I drink little (water) even though it is supposed to be good to drink a lot.

One can be of the opinion that having a smartphone has a negative impact and still use one.

I consider flying to be environmentally harmful and have not been on a plane for a long time – but it could be that I will still sit in one again someday.

There are so many reasons for and against ...
To "throw someone under the bus" because they are inconsistent is somewhat understandable, but not humane (or more broadly expressed: not life-friendly).

The core of what I want to say is:

You should not judge other people because you think you can see that they behave "wrongly."
There are ALWAYS reasons – like the much-cited and ridiculed unhappy childhood, for example.
I consider it crucially important to strengthen human kindness – and that ALWAYS starts with myself and does not end with Bernd Höcke.

Being humane does not mean letting everyone get away with everything, but trying to turn everything for the better for everyone.


:)
 

motorradsilke

2021-08-13 06:01:55
  • #6

For us, it’s not the ‘fear’ of something new and unknown, but rather the feeling that the house (or the automation) somehow dictates over us. With the car, I decide by pressing a button whether to lock it or leave it open. How does the house know in automation whether I’m just going into the garden and not all doors should be locked, or whether I’m leaving the property? If I can close all the doors with one button press, that is a gain in comfort, and I would like that with the house too. But the feeling that my house closes all the doors on its own doesn’t please me.
That is just one example. Likewise, I always want to decide myself anew whether I want the sun in the house today and maybe not tomorrow, whether I want to be woken by the sun tomorrow morning and therefore leave the shutters up overnight, or rather sleep in and therefore keep the shutters down, whether I want to drink my coffee early or only at 11, whether it should be dark all around when watching TV or not…
My life is not an automatism, I don’t want the same routine every day.
 

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