Single-family house ~200 sqm with double garage on a trapezoidal plot

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-05 15:45:57

HeimatBauer

2023-10-03 14:54:41
  • #1


As a homeowner, I would be grateful for the clear message. When I built, I got a very good professional friend as an advisor who first talked me out of all my daydreams and hammered in the basic construction principles. I am so glad today that I didn’t build the junk I had imagined.

In software development, they say "Fail fast," meaning make, notice, and correct errors as early as possible! If I notice the mistake while it’s still just a thought, it only costs me a few seconds to fix it. Once it’s drawn, it costs me a few hours to correct it. And so on. Once it’s built, it’s so laborious that most of the time it’s no longer corrected.

If I were to build a house again, I would indeed ask an 11ant or similar exactly for such a message. Simply because I want to save time, money, and nerves.
 

HeimatBauer

2023-10-03 14:59:23
  • #2
To the GC "architect". Ours somehow adapted the GC house to our wishes. Sort of. Almost. I believe it was only with the sixth draft that we were finally satisfied - but we kept referring to the building regulations. Draft six went to the municipality and immediately came back. After that, the GC "architect" first consulted a specialist to make the draft compliant with building regulations. That then took quite a while. If I were to build again, I would either really choose standard houses or an architect. Without quotation marks.
 

K a t j a

2023-10-03 16:30:20
  • #3

One may doubt that these are actually architects in such cases. Not every person authorized to draw has also completed an architecture degree. However, I could imagine that for the layman, the GU likes to refer to them as such to cut short discussions.
Would it actually be too cheeky to want to see the diploma beforehand?
 

Wugler1978

2023-10-03 16:53:39
  • #4


You're a great consultant!!! Pointing out after the child has fallen into the well that the well should be secured so that the child does not fall into the well.
 

11ant

2023-10-03 18:08:21
  • #5

I’m happy for you – and for the advisor whose advice you also accepted, even though it came from a good friend. I always comfort myself with the thought that it serves a good purpose – because the work of killing dreams is never easy from the heart (but it is important, since plots and especially building envelopes are not infinite, and according to the geotechnical report, not made of pink clouds either).

What the layman client imagines is usually not really bad, and even a naive focus on the (in terms of their relevance) wrong details is the bigger, but still not really bad problem. Number one is the “fear of missing out” which makes clients try to cram too many wishes into their little house combined with the toxic belief “you build only once.” That you would want to “build junk” would unfortunately be exactly where it applies perfectly what the draftsman must never ever say to you under any circumstances. If you make mistakes planning yourself, the draftsman should rather flatter you by leaving them in, even at painful bottlenecks (“once you are queen, you don’t need to walk much anyway”).

With good planning you save a lot of nerves and time, yes. Money only a little, even though every mistake costs twice (once to make it and once to fix it). Honestly, well-advised building is not cheaper, only “less expensive.” Although yes, for some tuition fees you could have already gotten a single garage or a small conservatory.

To the honor of the GU “architects,” I have to say that quite a few first drafts (that is before the client wanted to squeeze in a children’s bathroom or something similar) were better than the final spoiled version and very often building permits fail and stumble because of overstrained knee walls, dormers, and the like. Not everything the draftsman does is rubbish – he just mustn’t talk the customer out of it. The “black Peter” is better assigned to the evil building authority.

No, please a proven design and an architect. This is admittedly a mandate case that the fee schedule never foresaw, but still the best combination.

That wouldn’t be cheeky, but also not necessary. A building permit authorized person who is a master mason or carpenter is often even more valuable to the client than an architect fresh from university (the latter being the CAD generation to which the construction industry owes most of the shoddy workmanship). And I know a very good orthopedist who has his doctorate in natural sciences instead of classical medicine. Calling those who prepare building applications respectfully architects, although they are actually draftsmen, is a habit of clients, not the GU. Most contract architects are architects working part-time as parents (who then are chartered or employed by the GU) or architects nearing retirement for whom running their own office is no longer worthwhile. It is rarely really the quality of education or experience that causes expectations here to be set lower than when one initiates and commissions the architect oneself.

What nonsense. I always honestly say that water also only boils at one hundred degrees for me. So definitely not great, just thorough, honest, and experienced, but admittedly conservative in the sense of “no fashion maniac” and “when in doubt rather cautious”. I certainly never recommended testing the path of draftsman planning like a kamikaze. I earn my bread with people who are too cheap about their dearly borrowed money for painful learning.
 

11ant

2023-10-03 18:18:04
  • #6
What I don't understand is this combination:


How did it come about that despite having a good consultant you went to a main contractor "architect"?
 

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