Single-family house ~200 sqm with double garage on a trapezoidal plot

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-05 15:45:57

RomeoZwo

2023-05-06 01:02:59
  • #1
The plot has almost the same orientation as ours, possibly even a few degrees more "eastward tilt." With the arrangement, you have to be aware that from around 5 p.m. onwards, there is no more sun on the terrace. Fortunately, we had enough space to the north-northwest for a second terrace, which is used a lot especially in spring and autumn. Of course, the plot is small (although rather large by Munich standards) and it is becoming more difficult, but I would try to see if you can move the house a bit further south to make the 3m garden to the north usable.
 

K a t j a

2023-05-06 07:59:38
  • #2
A nice design. On a second look, however, there are a few tiny flaws here and there. What would bother me the most is the arrangement of the kitchen. At the island, you stand with your back to the door and then run in triangles every time you want to wash something. You need advice from a professional – also whether the chimney including the fireplace makes sense there. In the upper floor, the stove in the children's room would bother me again. Besides waste heat and lack of space, a chimney always makes a bit of noise. That’s why I would banish it to the hallway. For the other children's room, I am missing the dimensions. I wouldn't go below 3 m in depth, preferably more. Rather, I would steal a bit of depth from the guest room. The door in the attic bedroom opens into the slant. I don’t like that so much. On the other hand, I hardly see any attractive alternatives – so a door stopper is probably needed. In the outdoor area, I miss storage options for bicycles and the like.
 

K a t j a

2023-05-06 08:04:49
  • #3
Edit: I would definitely plan a laundry chute for 4 floors.
 

ypg

2023-05-06 11:06:01
  • #4
I looked again at the missing ceiling height in the parent area: Bathroom: one must be aware that, even if you are not 1.90 meters tall, the floor area visually provides space, but with a roof pitch of 45 degrees it is not walkable. Life takes place in a strip. So if two people use the bathroom, there are tight spots: one sits on the toilet, the other cannot simply reach the shower. It would be advantageous to place the toilet under the slope and box it in. Adjust the roof window to the center. Then the toilet slides under the slope, and the area in front is freely walkable without the resident/user having to pay attention to the slope. The shaft that runs from the basement through the kitchen upwards should be banished to the cloakroom on the ground floor; then it goes through the bathrooms and can be found in the attic somewhere next to the bathtub. Approximately there in my sketch. The dormer on the west: I would also arrange it in the center. Attention: the planned chimney takes up space. I would also place the bed under the slope and box it in here as well. Here, go along the room diagonal. Cabinets can be built open and individually into the slope.
 

Mucuc18

2023-05-06 22:33:13
  • #5

Thanks for the experience. Unfortunately, we can’t make the northwest part usable as there is a fairly high brick carport from the neighbor towards the west and larger trees towards the north... Possibly, we will widen the terrace another half meter to the left to catch 1-2 more sun rays in the evening that don’t reach around the edge of the house.


The arrangement of the kitchen is not really decided yet; we will have to go into detailed planning. But yes, certainly not easy with cooking on the island and the sink at the window. I think what you identified as a chimney is the drainage from the attic bathroom. The chimney is located at the entrance to the living room and accordingly in the guest room behind the door upstairs. Child 2’s depth is just about at almost 3m, so it might be worth considering taking a few centimeters from the guest room, but then there is again a corner in the previously straight wall in the guest room. The attic bedroom door does not bother us personally. Bicycles fit in the double garage; initially, only one car will be parked there.


It probably also fell victim to image resolution or similar. It is located on the ground floor near the wardrobe and in the upper and attic floors in the bathroom, down to the basement utility room.


Thanks first for sketching and the ideas! We exclusively use the bathroom alone, except maybe occasionally for brushing teeth. Nevertheless, it is probably a bit more comfortable if you can jump straight into the shower without fearing collisions with the toilet. I fear, however, that won’t work with the roof window; the setback in the east and the resulting roof shape significantly limit the space for relocation. If you reduce the height, it might fit, but then the bathroom might get a bit dark... We have to take a closer look to see if it might work with the window — and weigh whether the lack of headroom at the toilet is worth it for us :)


We will definitely take that on board; I didn’t even notice that it doesn’t end flush with the wall. There really is no reason for that. The dormer would benefit from being shifted slightly down. Or, if we stick with the original variant, it would help the wall (or the tricky situation in the bedroom) to be moved slightly upward (although then it would no longer lie directly above the corresponding upper-floor wall structurally).


That’s an interesting idea; we will discuss it. The advantage is definitely the freedom of movement around the bed. The disadvantage would be the door directly in front of the bed and the somewhat smaller perceived room due to the boxing in.
 

hanghaus2023

2023-05-07 11:52:13
  • #6
On the ground floor, I would like to give the kitchen a bit more space. For the stairs in the basement and ground floor, one more step on the east side and one less on the west side, respectively. This allows the wall to be moved by 26 cm. Then, the kitchen will have 4.4 m and the wardrobe will be 26 cm smaller. I would then provide a double glass door to the living room. The hallway remains the same.

 

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