Settlement house 1954 - complete renovation possible?

  • Erstellt am 2019-08-22 22:09:53

Winniefred

2019-08-23 11:10:27
  • #1
Yes, that's true, it is expensive and takes a lot of time. Nevertheless, I would prefer to do it if the plaster is already older (let's say older than 30-40 years), because it simply creates a lot of dirt and work, and that's something better done before you live inside. And yes, it is also noisy if you don't do it manually and plaster by hand. But back then, we simply didn't have the budget and especially no time to do it.
 

Tassimat

2019-08-23 14:28:42
  • #2
Oh yes, regarding your specific questions:

It depends heavily on the energy consultant, you have to find one anyway, also for the 430 individual measures. It probably won’t be worth it, as the general trend shows here. First see if you can achieve KFW-115. The rest is a bonus.



Definitely (painting work, stairs). Many things only become visible once you’re inside. We found damp walls due to a leaking balcony. That could be dealt with well through external insulation, but a balcony is poison for the KfW energy house, as it is connected to the floor slab. So again expensive insulation, tearing down the balcony or no KfW efficiency house.
Maybe you also want extras like a fireplace?

The most important thing missing from your schedule is a buffer. That should be €30,000 or more. It’s enough if due to lack of time you have to subcontract the electrical work plus a bit more and the buffer is gone.


If you have no time, then you have to seriously question all items involving your own work. With children and increasing distance between current residence, work, and renovation site, it’s so individual that anything between a few months and two years of construction time is possible. Besides time, physical fitness, friends, family, advisors, etc., also vary greatly. I do my own work almost exclusively alone (even without my wife), so I will need a little over one year. Currently, I am rather relaxed, as the building permit will still take some time.

Anyway, don’t be discouraged here; such a renovation can be a great project. However, I would strongly recommend leaving gimmicks like photovoltaics completely out, unless you really still have money left over from the buffer. You will only know that once you are in the middle of it.
 

11ant

2019-08-23 16:26:40
  • #3
Uh, yes, I certainly didn't mean that this was a remorseful renunciation - on the contrary: you first have to find the charm in that condition (as is also the case with the caravan) - and a wife in seventh heaven is priceless and tops any jacuzzi with ambilight, Bose surround, and Veuve-Cliquot tap system

What is this item for? - I expect the wall between the kitchen and the child’s room on the ground floor to be completely removable without replacement, while the one between living and sleeping areas, on the other hand, I consider not load-bearing but bracing*. I note that I see the crucial question against the background that layout modifications are limited to one or two decimal places.

*) in practice, this is by no means cheaper: "load-bearing" could be replaced by steel beams, with "bracing" it’s trickier
 

galdreth

2019-08-23 21:48:05
  • #4
First of all, thanks to everyone for the many contributions! Definitely gives us a good feeling. If we carry this through now, there will of course also be illustrated updates here.


New radiators means normal radiators that hang under the windows? I’m considering in the planning whether underfloor heating on the 1st floor (where the bathroom is) wouldn’t be nice, but then a very flat system would be necessary.


There is no balcony. The pit at the back is used for rainwater – that would also have to go for the insulation. The thing with the contingency fund is probably true. I also plan to continue saving hard so that around €10k will be available again within the first six months. Then there’s also a building savings contract from way back with about €5k and in the worst case extras like the photovoltaic system will be cut.

Does a fireplace work well if the house is optimized for airtightness and insulation?


Luckily we only live 100m away. Unfortunately, family is out due to distance.


That might be a good point. I will talk to the structural engineer about it again because the possibly bracing wall should definitely be removed. The high costs were estimated due to possibly necessary supporting elements.
 

11ant

2019-08-23 21:56:28
  • #5

That means you know the residents / sellers from chatting at the bakery?


A structural engineer should be able to interpret the wall thickness specification "10 cm" especially in the overall context of the floor plan, and not have read less into it than I have.
 

galdreth

2019-08-23 22:04:22
  • #6

We know some of the family by sight, but the children don’t live around the corner. The whole thing actually came about through friends in the neighborhood.

That means the civil engineer should be able to assess that just from the plans, right? Are there also cases where a floor or wall is opened to measure the thickness of elements? That would probably be difficult to do immediately before the purchase.
 

Similar topics
22.12.2015Is natural stone heating reasonable in combination with a photovoltaic system?16
06.08.2015Photovoltaics for hot water26
08.01.2016Photovoltaic system: self-consumption rate with battery and further questions27
29.01.2016Price difference new construction, KfW 70, KfW 5513
24.02.2016Construction costs to achieve KFW 55 funding29
08.06.2017Photovoltaic system, using experiences like a heat pump?64
06.04.2016Financing for 15 or 20 years? Photovoltaics via KFW?10
18.12.2016Introduction to Photovoltaics (New Construction)25
06.02.2017Upgrade from KfW 55 to KfW 40+16
22.05.2017New build bungalow - air-water heat pump, photovoltaic and solar thermal?17
10.02.2018Controlled residential ventilation or photovoltaic system? Seeking decision support, pros/cons18
19.07.2018Which KFW standard and which technology in new construction45
19.07.2018KFW 70 or is KWF 40 Plus worthwhile with significant additional costs?43
10.08.2019KFW 40 plus / Energy-efficient building with clinker?13
08.04.2019Advantages of KFW 40 Plus in General35
05.01.2020Gas heating + photovoltaics possible without proof15
02.03.2020Is a photovoltaic system also sensible in the west or east?78
10.11.2021Photovoltaic system: Costs, saving potential? - Experiences?240
01.11.2022Retroactive balcony mounting device17

Oben