galdreth
2019-08-22 22:09:53
- #1
Hello everyone,
my wife, daughter and I have found a small old house in our place of residence and work (small town in BaWue, 8,000 inhabitants) with the following features. Further below there are still open questions.
Sounds maybe good at first, only the house is quite worn out in terms of the interior and also needs to be cleared out. We were already inside with an architect and fortunately found no moisture or building damage. Our plan is nevertheless a complete renovation. An inspection by a KfW-accepted energy-efficient house engineer is still pending. There is no energy certificate yet. Probably incredibly bad due to the thin brick walls.
Interior finishing, electrical system and water pipes to be replaced, underfloor heating installed, kitchen, bathroom we estimate will cost about 85,500 euros:
Then there is the energy-efficient renovation on top. Comes to 135,650 euros:
Total costs for the house are then about 385,000 euros. So very, very steep and aimed at low consumption. The numbers are mostly rough estimates. It is not yet clear to me whether the planned measures will be sufficient for KfW 55. KfW 430 would then add another 30,000 euros, besides the child construction allowance.
My questions:
Building plans and pictures:

my wife, daughter and I have found a small old house in our place of residence and work (small town in BaWue, 8,000 inhabitants) with the following features. Further below there are still open questions.
[*]Year of construction 1954, 110 sqm living space with 380 sqm plot (densely planted with half a dozen fruit trees)
[*]Pictures see below.
[*]Location about 800m from the town center: 30 km/h zone; hardly any traffic, as only a few houses follow and then the next hill begins. Daycare 5 minutes on foot and Edeka 7 minutes. Train station 10 minutes. Work by bike 15 minutes. (The employer is also the driver of real estate prices here)
[*]Heating (oil with wood log supplement), roof ridge and facade renewed around '99
[*]Double-glazed windows, but only partially with plastic
[*]Fully basemented (220 cm ceiling height)
[*]Garage parking space in the basement (easily enough for our bike fleet)
[*]Sale without realtor for 160,000 euros
Sounds maybe good at first, only the house is quite worn out in terms of the interior and also needs to be cleared out. We were already inside with an architect and fortunately found no moisture or building damage. Our plan is nevertheless a complete renovation. An inspection by a KfW-accepted energy-efficient house engineer is still pending. There is no energy certificate yet. Probably incredibly bad due to the thin brick walls.
Interior finishing, electrical system and water pipes to be replaced, underfloor heating installed, kitchen, bathroom we estimate will cost about 85,500 euros:
Construction debris & bulky waste | Own work | 1000 | ||
Kitchen screed | 1000 | |||
Laying tiles | 2000 | |||
Structural engineer | 1500 | |||
Wall removal/re-plastering/painting | Own work | 8000 | ||
Bathroom screed | 1000 | |||
Bathroom tile laying | 8000 | |||
Shower | 3000 | |||
Toilets | 2000 | |||
Washbasins | 1500 | |||
2 glass doors to the garden | 6000 | |||
Electrical work | Own work | 5000 | ||
Pipe replacement | partly own work | 10000 | ||
Flooring material | Own work | 5500 | ||
Front door | 3000 | |||
Kitchen | partly own work | 20000 |
Then there is the energy-efficient renovation on top. Comes to 135,650 euros:
Underfloor heating | 7000 | ||
Brine heat pump + technology | 24000 | ||
Hot water tank | 2000 | ||
Overlay insulation + roof covering (140 sqm) | 35000 | ||
Exterior wall insulation and plaster (200 sqm) | 30450 | ||
Windows (26 in total) | 18200 | ||
Photovoltaic panels | 8000 | ||
Inverter | 2000 | ||
Ventilation system | 9000 |
Total costs for the house are then about 385,000 euros. So very, very steep and aimed at low consumption. The numbers are mostly rough estimates. It is not yet clear to me whether the planned measures will be sufficient for KfW 55. KfW 430 would then add another 30,000 euros, besides the child construction allowance.
My questions:
[*]Feasibility: The basement slab will remain uninsulated. -> Does that break the KfW 55 energy saving concept?
[*]Have we overlooked a major cost risk? Loan requirement would be 230,000 euros, which we would probably get at 0.9% interest for 20 years. Monthly payment 1,000 euros. Besides the payment for the loan, we still have 2,300 euros per month left for saving/repaying after deducting all costs. I am (still) sole earner.
[*]Is 12 months (provision interest) enough time? I am somewhat skilled in craftsmanship, but unfortunately not blessed with the necessary time.
[*]Is there anyone with a similar project in finished condition? We would be grateful for any tip.
Building plans and pictures:
Here the kitchen has meanwhile been replaced by a bathroom. | But we do not want to use the bathroom there. |